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by
theman53
on 05 Nov, 2011 10:02
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by
theman53
on 05 Nov, 2011 10:03
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#2
by
the caveman
on 05 Nov, 2011 10:46
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phew, at first,it looked like you were trying to sell 2 sections of perforated steel angle for $75
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#3
by
wdkingery
on 05 Nov, 2011 14:44
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Nah he's done all the legwork gettin the measurements all worked out and the fitting correct. $75 will get you a complete mount that's been designed to fit a vnt to a 1.6
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#4
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Toby
on 05 Nov, 2011 14:53
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Could you post a pic of just the mount? Is it triangulated somewhere or is it just the plate showing in the photos?
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#5
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R.O.R-2.0
on 05 Nov, 2011 15:41
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Could you post a pic of just the mount? Is it triangulated somewhere or is it just the plate showing in the photos?
oh, its triangulated alright.. he built 'em good!
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#6
by
theman53
on 06 Nov, 2011 16:16
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#7
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Toby
on 07 Nov, 2011 00:37
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You need to triangulate everything or it will fail in short order. You present design is a prescription for failure. The welds show little penetration and will also fail quickly unless ground out and rewelded. This stuff should be TIG welded since it is a HIGHLY stressed component. That mount is subjected to all of the torque that the engine produces plus lots of shock loading when you pop the clutch. Without proper gusseting and non faulty welds it will just fold up like so much cardboard. I would use a full length gusset in the spot where you have the tiny one.
The execution looks nice otherwise. I suspect you will sell a bunch of them.
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#8
by
theman53
on 07 Nov, 2011 00:57
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#9
by
Toby
on 07 Nov, 2011 12:44
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No the welds are NOT fine. Show them to a welder and he will confirm why: Insufficient penetration among other things. I could break all of them with a hammer.
No you do not have nearly enough triangulation on the mount and it WILL fail in short order. It is vastly weaker than the stocker. You have this vast area from where it bolts to the block to where it bolts to the rubber mount that is unsupported. Your design will work fine IF the gusset runs from the BOTTOM of the area where it bolts to the block to the closest point to the mount. Otherwise it will just flex until it cracks. To tell yourself otherwise is just magical thinking.
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#10
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R.O.R-2.0
on 07 Nov, 2011 13:11
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it does need more triangulation. ALOT more.
i would have that mount broken in a few days..
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#11
by
theman53
on 07 Nov, 2011 16:34
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Nevermind.
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#12
by
Toby
on 08 Nov, 2011 02:52
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I don't mean to jam on you but every weld pictured is bad and we can see most of them. I can weld pretty well, but in critical applications I get a welder to do the work, because you and I and the vast majority of hobbyists are not capable to making EVERY weld what it should be. Cheap MIG welding equipment is not capable of doing strong welds on 1/4" plate even if the look OK. The stuff pictured is clearly not up to snuff. Have a pro do it.
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#13
by
theman53
on 08 Nov, 2011 08:08
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#14
by
BigVWman
on 08 Nov, 2011 08:46
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How did all the commentary end up in a FS thread? Especially with none of us buying any?
You can adequately mig 1/4 plate and i really don't know how anyone can truely say the welds are insufficient without holding it in your hands and looking at it and even then its subjective. I doubt any of us, even your pro welders mentioned, follow the proper methods to the t, i bet half don't even own a rod oven.