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August 06, 2011, 07:39:36 pm

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Air cleaner suggestions wanted
« on: August 06, 2011, 07:39:36 pm »
have a 94 AAZ Golf engine going into my latest Caddy. It has a K14 turbo. In the past I have used a universal K+N filter mounted on the end of the rubber intake duct, but some folks tell me they don't keep the fine dust out like a paper element will. Wondering what experience other members have with this.
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Reply #1August 06, 2011, 07:55:09 pm

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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2011, 07:55:09 pm »
You could try a Donaldson or similar truck style filter like i had on my Vanagon. Mine cost a little under $100
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Reply #2August 07, 2011, 02:55:27 am

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2011, 02:55:27 am »
I've run my truck for hours in 3' visibility dust storms, and not found any dirt downstream of the K&N
But I can get  you one of these If you've got the stones to pull it off;
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Reply #3August 07, 2011, 06:13:26 am

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2011, 06:13:26 am »
thanks guys, I was looking at this page:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm

that's where my concerns came from. I would like to find a GOOD filter for my new engine. K+N has been around for quite a while, so they must not be all bad.... ???

Hey 745, what's the filter you pictured? What is the intake flange diameter? And what do you mean by "stones to pull it off"?
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Reply #4August 07, 2011, 09:12:38 am

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2011, 09:12:38 am »
I've run my truck for hours in 3' visibility dust storms, and not found any dirt downstream of the K&N
But I can get  you one of these If you've got the stones to pull it off;


thats a skateboard above it..

"stones to pull it off" - do you have big enough balls to run this filter?

i would say its atleast 6" or 8" flange on the filter..

ive had a K&N on my rabbit for a long time.. my intake system is still as spotless as the day i put it on... they even work when there completely clogged up too..
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Reply #5August 07, 2011, 10:57:24 am

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2011, 10:57:24 am »
I didn't realize that was a skateboard, I honestly thought it was a liner for a watershoe. guess I got trolled a bit there    :(

i hate trolls...
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Reply #6August 07, 2011, 11:05:26 am

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2011, 11:05:26 am »
nah, hes just playing.. i laughed when i saw what he posted..  ;D

then again, im used to seeing those filters, i build alot of green houses with extreme ventilation, and we use those style of filters alot.

NOT THAT HUGE, but use the same style..

just cut a hole in your hood for that air cleaner to stick up..

and look at it this way.. that air cleaner is SO HUGE, that you might have to clean it once every 10-15 years.. lol.
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Reply #7August 07, 2011, 11:15:35 am

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 11:15:35 am »
That one's a 12" at the flange, about 2' long ;D

One day I will run one to some ricey show.

Reply #8August 07, 2011, 11:29:11 am

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 11:29:11 am »
That one's a 12" at the flange, about 2' long ;D

One day I will run one to some ricey show.

that, and a coffee-can sized tail pipe?  ;D

OH, AND A SPOILER!!!

and maybe some v-tec injection?

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Reply #9August 07, 2011, 01:12:44 pm

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Re: Air cleaner suggestions wanted
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 01:12:44 pm »
nah, hes just playing.. i laughed when i saw what he posted..  ;D

then again, im used to seeing those filters, i build alot of green houses with extreme ventilation, and we use those style of filters alot.

NOT THAT HUGE, but use the same style..

just cut a hole in your hood for that air cleaner to stick up..

and look at it this way.. that air cleaner is SO HUGE, that you might have to clean it once every 10-15 years.. lol.


Green houses huh? Shouldn't you use carbon filters to filter the SMELL in a greenhouse? You know... So the neighbors don't complain and the cops don't show up?

Reply #10August 07, 2011, 01:27:19 pm

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2011, 01:27:19 pm »
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Reply #11August 07, 2011, 06:10:07 pm

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2011, 06:10:07 pm »
nah, hes just playing.. i laughed when i saw what he posted..  ;D

then again, im used to seeing those filters, i build alot of green houses with extreme ventilation, and we use those style of filters alot.

NOT THAT HUGE, but use the same style..

just cut a hole in your hood for that air cleaner to stick up..

and look at it this way.. that air cleaner is SO HUGE, that you might have to clean it once every 10-15 years.. lol.


Green houses huh? Shouldn't you use carbon filters to filter the SMELL in a greenhouse? You know... So the neighbors don't complain and the cops don't show up?

nah, you use those when you just want to keep the dust out of your fans and ducting.. it doesnt matter how much it smells when its a legal product being grown..
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Reply #12August 07, 2011, 10:16:39 pm

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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2011, 10:16:39 pm »
  I fit a digi 2 airbox from a MK2 gasser into a Rabbit.

 It was a digi 2 gasser Rabbit but all I had to do was cut a slot in the bottom for the pinch weld to slide into,.. so it would sit low enough.

 I'm not sure how a turbo input hose would connect to it but I think it's bigger and better flowing than a MK1 TD airbox.
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Reply #13August 08, 2011, 07:58:10 am

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2011, 07:58:10 am »
  I fit a digi 2 airbox from a MK2 gasser into a Rabbit.

 It was a digi 2 gasser Rabbit but all I had to do was cut a slot in the bottom for the pinch weld to slide into,.. so it would sit low enough.

 I'm not sure how a turbo input hose would connect to it but I think it's bigger and better flowing than a MK1 TD airbox.

the digi air box is definitely of a bigger capacity, but you gotta take that intake trumpet off it. the hole in the end of the trumpet is like 1" diameter.

if you were to enlarge the exit from the digi air box, it would be fine.. then just use one of those neuspeed P-flow (or something similar) kits, but use the air filter adapter backwards. instead of bolting it to the MAF, then clamping the filter to it, just bolt it to the air box (same bolt pattern since the MAF was already there once) and hook up your intake piping to the end of the P-flow kit where the filter would go..

i went with a custom intake on my TD.. the air filter is tucked in the inner fender well, right next to the water pump pulley. has a pod filter located low. if you lean down and look, you can see about half of the filter laying on its side down there..

im sure it sucks water, but i live in oregon, and i never had an issue with it..
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Reply #14August 11, 2011, 11:12:52 am

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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2011, 11:12:52 am »
I know size doesn't have to be that large air cleaner wise, a N/A only pulls about 220 CFM (roughly 96 ci @4000 revs).  What does a turbo pull in at say 15 psi?  Double that?
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