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Reply #15May 16, 2011, 07:46:53 pm

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 07:46:53 pm »
diesels are a lazy engine by nature.. they dont need a light flywheel. its kinda counter-productive if you ask me.

I dispute these claims. Its only the governed de-tuned state in which Vw designed them, that is lazy. Sure most stock diesels are a little anemic and cant get out of their own way, but thats not entirely true.. The bigger I6 Cummins, V8 ford and chevy's can pull their rpm ranges pretty quickly (for a V8), because they have the torque to do so. Go outside and floor your car in neutral, you hit roller skipping rpm in a second. The same is not true with a load on the engine because there simply isn't the power to do so. Sure a gas engine can pull that range quicker BUT wot is wot, the fuel isn't governed. Take the governor out of the equation and these little diesels will pull the rpms right along side a similar hp/tq engine, say that of a 1.6 carb or 1.7 mfi. /threadjack

But yes generally a lighter flywheel is of choice so that you have less rotating mass when way up high, something you'll never see on your diesel.

Reply #16May 16, 2011, 10:04:42 pm

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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 10:04:42 pm »
I had thought about the higher revving gassers and how it helps them. My logic was that since I only have roughly 5500 rpms to play with,  I should make that as easy as possible for the engine. I'm still gonna throw it in, Ill let you know how it goes.

Reply #17May 17, 2011, 04:25:16 am

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2011, 04:25:16 am »
IMO, go for the lighter flywheel. It really made a big difference in my son's 1.6td.
He had 1.9 IP and injectors, D24 turbo at 2.5-ish bar, 3' dp to start with and then he shaved something like 3kg of the flywheel.

Here's a few years old clip of the car when he was playing a bit with a V70R. (sorry for the bad quality)
http://www.garaget.org/video/1vqv02k4ns9f
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Reply #18May 17, 2011, 01:33:55 pm

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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2011, 01:33:55 pm »
Funny you should mention this. I've been toying with the idea of putting the flywheel from my gasser donor onto my diesel when I swap out the transmission.
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Reply #19May 17, 2011, 03:41:37 pm

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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2011, 03:41:37 pm »
I think that USRT has them too. They are a kit that you put together and can adjust all angles.

Heres a link to a kit at BFI.
http://store.blackforestindustries.com/ussmlifab.html.


I have this kit, looks awsome, its just waiting to go back in with my engine soon hopefully, Got it on ebay for $140

Finally got to use it and it works great! definatley would recommend this to anyone who wants to upgrade there stock, sloppy linkage
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Reply #20June 15, 2011, 12:03:45 pm

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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2011, 12:03:45 pm »
Well, finally got the 4sp tranny out, and getting the 5sp prepped to go back in.

Ordered this:


Sad thing is, when I disconnected the driver's side drive shaft, the half-shaft that connects to the differential came apart and the bearings when everywhere. It was new, I just think the guy didn't put it together correctly.
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Reply #21June 15, 2011, 12:09:57 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2011, 12:09:57 pm »
If the axle was subject to an extreme angle it comes apart fairly easily.. The Bentley will illustrate how to rebuild it, even a lesser Haynes or Chilton will as well.

Reply #22June 15, 2011, 07:46:36 pm

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2011, 07:46:36 pm »
ROGER IS THE MAN!!!

I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.
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Reply #23June 16, 2011, 10:28:42 pm

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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 10:28:42 pm »
ROGER IS THE MAN!!!

I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.

   
   Processed through Sort Facility, June 16, 2011, 11:05 pm, TULSA, OK 74141
   Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 15, 2011
   Processed through Sort Facility, June 15, 2011, 7:44 pm, SAN JOSE, CA 95101
   Acceptance, June 15, 2011, 6:22 pm, SANTA CLARA, CA 95051

Looks like it'll be here tomorrow. Who needs 3day select when you've got 2 day US Mail? :-D
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Reply #24June 18, 2011, 12:36:34 am

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« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2011, 12:36:34 am »
ROGER IS THE MAN!!!

I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.

   
   Processed through Sort Facility, June 16, 2011, 11:05 pm, TULSA, OK 74141
   Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 15, 2011
   Processed through Sort Facility, June 15, 2011, 7:44 pm, SAN JOSE, CA 95101
   Acceptance, June 15, 2011, 6:22 pm, SANTA CLARA, CA 95051

Looks like it'll be here tomorrow. Who needs 3day select when you've got 2 day US Mail? :-D

Shift kit arrived today, I'm glad I bought this one instead of the $150 one, same function....less work to install. I don't have to grind off and drill the little knobs that the other shift kits make you do.
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Reply #25June 20, 2011, 08:10:56 am

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Re: Short shifter
« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2011, 08:10:56 am »
ROGER IS THE MAN!!!

I ordered my Missing LinkZ shift kit (a1e I think it is complete w/Short throw adapter), $100 out the door, AND he shipped it, SAME DAY...I might have it by Saturday. That'll make me happier than a swine in excrement.

   
   Processed through Sort Facility, June 16, 2011, 11:05 pm, TULSA, OK 74141
   Electronic Shipping Info Received, June 15, 2011
   Processed through Sort Facility, June 15, 2011, 7:44 pm, SAN JOSE, CA 95101
   Acceptance, June 15, 2011, 6:22 pm, SANTA CLARA, CA 95051

Looks like it'll be here tomorrow. Who needs 3day select when you've got 2 day US Mail? :-D

Shift kit arrived today, I'm glad I bought this one instead of the $150 one, same function....less work to install. I don't have to grind off and drill the little knobs that the other shift kits make you do.


I have the same kit sitting in my parts bin. Just waiting for the timing needed to install. I wanted to order the more expensive kit because it has the main shifter shaft bushings. Mine are worn out.

I can always order them, but for not i'll just go with stock oem replacements.

AND there was no duty for shipment to canadia. THATS the best deal I've seen.