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December 08, 2010, 09:49:47 pm

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Valve cover beather hose
« on: December 08, 2010, 09:49:47 pm »
Is there a replacement available for the valve cover breather hose on the 1.6 NA's?

Looks like this->
85 Golf Diesel 1.6 NA 240K miles? (odometer broken)
87 Cabriolet 1.8 Gasser 104K miles
05 Golf 2.0 Gasser 66k miles
03 Jetta Wagon TDI 112k Miles

Reply #1December 08, 2010, 09:52:11 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 09:52:11 pm »
What year is this from? The style I'm familiar with has only one inlet and outlet. Where does this one attach aside from the vc and the intake manifold?

Reply #2December 08, 2010, 10:20:39 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 10:20:39 pm »
Mine is an 85 Golf 1.6 NA "Westy" (US built in Westmoreland, PA) The pic above I stole from a for sale thread from an 86 Jetta, but it's the same one. The "single" end attaches to the valve cover, the hose "y's" into two outlets that connect to the intake manifold (which has two inlets). I'll see if I can dig up a picture of my engine bay...


(can see it a little in the lower right of this pic, i'll have to take a new one later)
85 Golf Diesel 1.6 NA 240K miles? (odometer broken)
87 Cabriolet 1.8 Gasser 104K miles
05 Golf 2.0 Gasser 66k miles
03 Jetta Wagon TDI 112k Miles

Reply #3December 09, 2010, 02:27:35 am

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 02:27:35 am »
Is there a replacement available for the valve cover breather hose on the 1.6 NA's?

Looks like this->


This one is for a CS diesel, part #033 103 493

There is another one with a valve at the valve cover for 'dusty' conditions
064 103 493   and valve:
068 129 101
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Reply #4December 09, 2010, 10:43:39 am

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 10:43:39 am »
This one is for a CS diesel, part #033 103 493

There is another one with a valve at the valve cover for 'dusty' conditions
064 103 493   and valve:
068 129 101


Thanks for the part numbers; "033103493" seems to be the one for my car (#7 in the diagram)
where the hell do I get it though..


(the "dusty conditions version is the top part of the diagram, but not what I've got, though it would also work, it's the same thing basically with a filter, then a "y" hose)

Seem like it might be easier/cheaper to just get some generic hose and find a suitable "y" adapater....

Suggestions?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2010, 10:46:25 am by jseeley »
85 Golf Diesel 1.6 NA 240K miles? (odometer broken)
87 Cabriolet 1.8 Gasser 104K miles
05 Golf 2.0 Gasser 66k miles
03 Jetta Wagon TDI 112k Miles

Reply #5December 09, 2010, 03:25:32 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 03:25:32 pm »
Its just a tube for blow_by gasses to go through.. And occasional oil vaopour. A rubber that will withstand oil will do well.

Reply #6December 09, 2010, 04:43:54 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 04:43:54 pm »
Silicone will handle hot oil,..
 what else would work?

 I have another application that's exposed to hot oil.
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Reply #7December 09, 2010, 05:01:31 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 05:01:31 pm »
Stainless braid with teflon inner will handle hot oil. Most hydraulic line will handle it also.

Reply #8December 09, 2010, 10:08:44 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 10:08:44 pm »
I'll have to take some measurements for the inner diameter; I assume this stuff would work->

http://boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=154

and would I need to find something to split the line to re-create the "y" of the original hose. Any suggestions for online shops that have couplers/splitters?
85 Golf Diesel 1.6 NA 240K miles? (odometer broken)
87 Cabriolet 1.8 Gasser 104K miles
05 Golf 2.0 Gasser 66k miles
03 Jetta Wagon TDI 112k Miles

Reply #9December 09, 2010, 10:41:35 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 10:41:35 pm »
You could just run one hose and cap one of the ports on the intake manifold?

Reply #10December 09, 2010, 11:31:33 pm

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 11:31:33 pm »
Any hardware shop with have a plasctic or brass t fitting

Is still avail from VW ?

Or is it something else I need to make ?
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Reply #11December 10, 2010, 10:49:53 am

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 10:49:53 am »
You could just run one hose and cap one of the ports on the intake manifold?

I would think any blowby would only be directed to 2 cylinders then; Some people don't seem to like directing any of that back into the intake... dumping it all to one side probably isn't the best, but it would work I'm sure.

Any hardware shop with have a plasctic or brass t fitting

Is still avail from VW ?

Or is it something else I need to make ?
GB

Iam currentley making all the gasser MK breather hoses for MK1AUTOHAUS

Would a nylon t stand up to the heat or would a brass one be better? I'll see if VW still carries the original, I can't seem to find it online. I dunno how common these "CS" manifolds are for you to go through the trouble of making one. It doesn't seem like any other setup uses this design. Speaking of which... are there other intake manifolds that would be an upgrade? I've seen some people running 1.8 gasser intakes with the throttle gutted.... 
85 Golf Diesel 1.6 NA 240K miles? (odometer broken)
87 Cabriolet 1.8 Gasser 104K miles
05 Golf 2.0 Gasser 66k miles
03 Jetta Wagon TDI 112k Miles

Reply #12December 10, 2010, 11:13:07 am

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2010, 11:13:07 am »
You could just run one hose and cap one of the ports on the intake manifold?

I would think any blowby would only be directed to 2 cylinders then; Some people don't seem to like directing any of that back into the intake... dumping it all to one side probably isn't the best, but it would work I'm sure.

Any hardware shop with have a plasctic or brass t fitting

Is still avail from VW ?

Or is it something else I need to make ?
GB

Iam currentley making all the gasser MK breather hoses for MK1AUTOHAUS

Would a nylon t stand up to the heat or would a brass one be better? I'll see if VW still carries the original, I can't seem to find it online. I dunno how common these "CS" manifolds are for you to go through the trouble of making one. It doesn't seem like any other setup uses this design. Speaking of which... are there other intake manifolds that would be an upgrade? I've seen some people running 1.8 gasser intakes with the throttle gutted.... 

CS engines are not very common.. they only came in Vanagons.. and idk why you couldnt make a breather hose out of a T, and some 90* fittings..

as for the gasser intake manifold, it works, but the one you got works awesome too.. and you dont have to change it, or anything attached to it if you just leave it there..

if you change the manifold, you also have to add an air cleaner.. gasser intakes dont have an integrated air box like diesels. and the proper way would not be gutting the throttle body, it would be to remove it completely.. just have a hook up for a 2.5" round hose or something..

most of us guys running gasser intakes are running turbos too. and they kick ass when you cram boost down them!
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #13December 10, 2010, 11:25:55 am

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2010, 11:25:55 am »
CS engines are not very common.. they only came in Vanagons.. and idk why you couldnt make a breather hose out of a T, and some 90* fittings..

as for the gasser intake manifold, it works, but the one you got works awesome too.. and you dont have to change it, or anything attached to it if you just leave it there..

if you change the manifold, you also have to add an air cleaner.. gasser intakes dont have an integrated air box like diesels. and the proper way would not be gutting the throttle body, it would be to remove it completely.. just have a hook up for a 2.5" round hose or something..

most of us guys running gasser intakes are running turbos too. and they kick ass when you cram boost down them!

I wonder how the CS wound up in my car then... As far as I know it's not a swap. I'm the third owner as far as I know (I have the original windows sticker, nice touch)

I probably will just make the hose with a T fitting; The one currently on the car is "ok" but it getting some cracks and feels pretty fragile.

Thanks for all the info. I was asking about the intake because I plan on swapping my exhaust manifold soon... I picked up an 8v with the dual down pipe, gonna try 2.25" all the way back, though I plan on running two resonators and a muffler. I've herd it can be pretty loud switching from the stock 1.5" setup.
85 Golf Diesel 1.6 NA 240K miles? (odometer broken)
87 Cabriolet 1.8 Gasser 104K miles
05 Golf 2.0 Gasser 66k miles
03 Jetta Wagon TDI 112k Miles

Reply #14December 10, 2010, 11:33:28 am

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Re: Valve cover beather hose
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2010, 11:33:28 am »
CS engines are not very common.. they only came in Vanagons.. and idk why you couldnt make a breather hose out of a T, and some 90* fittings..

as for the gasser intake manifold, it works, but the one you got works awesome too.. and you dont have to change it, or anything attached to it if you just leave it there..

if you change the manifold, you also have to add an air cleaner.. gasser intakes dont have an integrated air box like diesels. and the proper way would not be gutting the throttle body, it would be to remove it completely.. just have a hook up for a 2.5" round hose or something..

most of us guys running gasser intakes are running turbos too. and they kick ass when you cram boost down them!

I wonder how the CS wound up in my car then... As far as I know it's not a swap. I'm the third owner as far as I know (I have the original windows sticker, nice touch)

I probably will just make the hose with a T fitting; The one currently on the car is "ok" but it getting some cracks and feels pretty fragile.

Thanks for all the info. I was asking about the intake because I plan on swapping my exhaust manifold soon... I picked up an 8v with the dual down pipe, gonna try 2.25" all the way back, though I plan on running two resonators and a muffler. I've herd it can be pretty loud switching from the stock 1.5" setup.

my 84 rabbit is equipped with a CS engine.. should have had a CR from the factory. and im the SECOND registered owner of the rabbit. but i know for a fact that it did get an engine swap.

and most MK2 cars had the same style of intake manifold as you tho. it wasnt CS only, most likely just a particular hose..

as for making it loud, just turbo it. best muffler ever!

if your keeping it n/a, then dont put glass packs on it.. use real resonators. glass packs are SUPER RAPPY on diesels.. my rabbit would start rapping at about 1500 rpms. but that was with tiny stock tail pipe still.. the bigger the pipe you run, the less loud it is, but the more chances for "diesel drone"..

you got the right manifold and downpipe for your chassis right? idk how many times ive seen people try and use mk2 manifolds and downpipes on mk1s, or the other way around..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.