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anybody hear of this bio diesel that needs no mods to run
by
superman293
on 31 Dec, 2005 22:33
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i think it's called secret diesel engery, they claim you need no modifactions to your diesel, they sell a thinning agent to thin the cooking oil out, claims it cost 46 cent a gallon and there isn't any dangerous chemicals to mix, i was going to try it out but was wondering if anybody else new more about it.
thanks
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#1
by
QuickTD
on 01 Jan, 2006 07:28
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It is xylol, available at your local paint store for less than $20 a gallon. I'm bit skeptical regarding the claims, I think you would still have problems at below freezing temps.
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by
bhtooefr
on 01 Jan, 2006 07:46
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by
superman293
on 01 Jan, 2006 08:06
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doesnt really sound too great, i might give it a try this summer when the temp is up.
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#4
by
bhtooefr
on 01 Jan, 2006 08:16
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I wouldn't, if I were you.
It's nearly as thick as SVO, from what I've read, and has a few very high octane components, making it a bad diesel fuel. (A fuel that has a high octane value resists compression ignition, so that one can crank up the compression ratio on a gasser. A fuel that has a high cetane number (read: good in a diesel) lends itself to compression ignition. Cetane and octane are near opposites.)
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#5
by
zyewdall
on 01 Jan, 2006 08:40
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Yeah, like QuickTD said, it's a mixture of veggie oil, gasoline, and maybe some petro-diesel, and their secret ingredient, which is apparently Xylol. I wouldn't call any of them except veggie oil non-dangerous. In the summer time, maybe it'd be okay, but I wouldn't in mine. SVO is cheaper ($0 per gallon once you have modified the vehical to heat the fuel).
I personally use regular biodiesel (both soy and canola based) without any modification to my vehical -- yes, it is $3/gallon, but I have never had any issues with it (aside from clogging my fuel filter with dirt it cleaned out of my system when I first switched). I have also run SVO in vehicals -- you just have to get it to 160F or more before entering the injector pump in order to get the viscosity low enough (unless you have a mercedes with the in line pump -- people have run those on cold veggie oil without killing the IP)
Maybe it's just that I am an engineer, not a chemist, so I don't mind modifying the vehical to run SVO, and not have to deal with mixing chemicals, be they methoxide to make biodiesel, or gasoline to thin SVO.
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#6
by
superman293
on 01 Jan, 2006 09:43
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so to run SVO there is no modifcations to the fuel, but you have make a way to heat it to 170 degress, is there any site or fourm you could point me to, i have a 1990 non turbo jetta, i would like to find out how much it would cost to convert my car
thanks
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#7
by
lesharoturbo
on 01 Jan, 2006 09:46
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#8
by
bhtooefr
on 01 Jan, 2006 09:46
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Elsbett, Greasecar, Greasel, Frybrid, and other companies sell kits, plus there's a few guides on making your own. Google is your friend.
FWIW, I've heard that Elsbett will warranty everything against damage from properly filtered fuel if you use their kit.