Video of First start up on a brand new motor.... what gives! (WITH VIDEO)

[Thezorn]

Since I dont know if jpedro will check up on the thread for a while Ill chime in. Yes, with a socket on the crank he can still turn the engine over just as easiley as before. And from what I remember, the oil pressure is coming from the sensor port on the drivers side of the head.

[jpedro]

yup i got my oil preasure from the port on the top of the head. once it cools down ill re time and try and run again, if that fails i know where there is a 1982 N/A VW Diesel i can get for cheap, put my turbo on there and swap it out alls im wondering whats the pros and cons of hydro vs. mech heads? and will the trannys from the 1990 jetta bolt up the the 1982 motor? and what should i change on it? the motor runs like a top, wasnt started for over 10 years had an old battery in it and fired right up no troubles. and as far as swapping the injector pump should i do this ? to put the turbo one on it and how hard is that to do? as much help would be greatly appreciated. thanks

[lovinthedeez]

If you end up getting the mk1 motor, you'll have to chop off the motor mount that is part of the injection pump bracket.  the ps motor mount attaches to the back of mk2's. 

you can see where I cut the mount off here.

[jpedro]

ok well that seems easy enough to do. and i dont hve p/s anyways my braket that bolts to the block was damaged so i turfed it and found a shorter belt for the crank to water pump

[rs899]

Yeah, it really didn't sound all that bad running until the "bang". You say everything spins freely.  My initial thought would be to check to see if the cam sprocket is slipping/spinning on the camshaft.  Retime and check compression as expressed before.  Pull the oil pan and valve cover and look around.  You should see something.....

[jpedro]

tomorrow night ill actually have time to set timming and giver it a whirl again, cross my fingers she runs. ill be recording again so hopefully something fantastic happens!!( hope it runs)

[jpedro]

Ok, so heres the scoop. today i had time to re-time my car, and check everything over..... All that said and done i figured everything look A-Ok. go ahead with a start attempt.no as much as being lucky. wouldnt start. doesnt help the starter is half dead and battery neither is to great. that being said im gettin a new starter tomorrow and the battery is in the charger right now. when i was cranking it, you cold deffinately hear it wanting to take off, it was smoking like crazy out the tail pipe good or bad not so sure, deffinatly diesel though.ill give it another whirl tomorrow when im off work. im crossing my fingers that it wakes up from its acomma tomorrow lol. ill get a video of it as well to show what its doing and someone from watching it might have an idea as what there is i need to do.

[westcoaster]

Ok, so heres the scoop. today i had time to re-time my car, and check everything over..... All that said and done i figured everything look A-Ok. go ahead with a start attempt.no as much as being lucky. wouldnt start. doesnt help the starter is half dead and battery neither is to great. that being said im gettin a new starter tomorrow and the battery is in the charger right now. when i was cranking it, you cold deffinately hear it wanting to take off, it was smoking like crazy out the tail pipe good or bad not so sure, deffinatly diesel though.ill give it another whirl tomorrow when im off work. im crossing my fingers that it wakes up from its acomma tomorrow lol. ill get a video of it as well to show what its doing and someone from watching it might have an idea as what there is i need to do.

Make note of the smoke colour (or position the camera so we can see)
Colour of the smoke tells quite a bit about what's happening as well...

[jpedro]

so i retimeed the engine tonight and tried again with a new starter / batteries. that made a huge difference but still lots of dark grey almost black smoke coming out the exhaust, but it still wont actually start, ill do a video tomorrow and post it up with what it is doing cause i know thats what you all like to see is videos lol.

[westcoaster]

I'll preface wthis next comment question with an I DON"T KNOW....


Could the pump be 180* out?
What are the symptoms of that?

[jpedro]

So heres a video of the car, and as "westcoaster" stated the pump could be 180* out? how is that possible when i locked the injector pump with the dowl hole? how do i check that for sure? or any other ideas on this POS of a car i have lol. thanks

 

[veedubcanuck]

 For some reason it's only firing on one cylinder.... I think you must have some internal damage from something.... After all, there is a reason it sounded so bad and came to a sudden stop in the first video..

[jpedro]

thats what i kinda thought, ugggghhh i hate this car lol i suppose ill pull of the oil pan and inspect what went wrong.....

[wolf_walker]

Damn that is a lot of smoke just for cranking RPM.  Had you been turning it over for awhile before that video?

FWIW, I had a NA 1.6 with that same 1 cyl firing sound that was due to a dead front pump seal sucking tons of air, didn't smoke like that though.

Compression test?

[westcoaster]

I got nothing....


Those in the know Should post up at some point....



That almost looks like incomplete combustion. I regularly start my camp fires with a jug of diesel. Sometimes I pour it on a bed of coals and end up with that white-ish smoke. (until I flick my lighter at it and things go *POOF*) How you would get that out of an engine, I'm not sure...