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Reply #225October 06, 2011, 01:20:22 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #225 on: October 06, 2011, 01:20:22 am »
UPDATE: Diesel Fuel Injection Service sent my pump back to me today so should arrive here friday or sat. Cant wait to get that SOB in their
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Reply #226October 18, 2011, 12:49:12 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #226 on: October 18, 2011, 12:49:12 am »
I got the pump back friday and put it in sunday, also got it running sunday. Below is a video of one of the first starts.

I was reving it cause i didnt want it to idle much
Ill post a better video wed or thursday when i have time

http://www.youtube.com/user/dankcorey2424?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/IOirdlP5cxw
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Reply #227October 18, 2011, 12:18:09 pm

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« Reply #227 on: October 18, 2011, 12:18:09 pm »
Sounds awesome!
Mine - BMP 20thAE GTI
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Our project: '84 Jetta TD

Reply #228October 18, 2011, 01:03:19 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #228 on: October 18, 2011, 01:03:19 pm »
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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Reply #229October 22, 2011, 07:15:06 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #229 on: October 22, 2011, 07:15:06 pm »
Here is the other video i would like you all to see. I noticed that they are big air bubbles in the return line between each injector and fuel is not moving through there. Is that a problem i should worry about?
I done the first oil change today, 100 mile mark. i have 30PSI of oil pressure when hot at idle. Almost 70PSI when cold at idle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGqHEciGWSc&feature=channel_video_title

-Corey
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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Reply #230October 23, 2011, 11:55:23 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #230 on: October 23, 2011, 11:55:23 am »
Here is the other video i would like you all to see. I noticed that they are big air bubbles in the return line between each injector and fuel is not moving through there. Is that a problem i should worry about?
I done the first oil change today, 100 mile mark. i have 30PSI of oil pressure when hot at idle. Almost 70PSI when cold at idle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGqHEciGWSc&feature=channel_video_title

-Corey

Don't worry too much about the bubbles in the injector return lines, which return unused excess fuel from the injectors back to the tank. It will take a longer time to bleed themselves out of the return lines (compared to bleeding air out of the IP). As long as you have no leaks at those lines and elsewhere you're golden.

Reply #231October 23, 2011, 01:43:01 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #231 on: October 23, 2011, 01:43:01 pm »
Well in good with everything else then, all I need now is my exhaust system ive been running it cut off right before the tunnel until I know everythings gonna work right
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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Reply #232October 25, 2011, 12:19:01 am

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« Reply #232 on: October 25, 2011, 12:19:01 am »
has anyone ever though of or heard of a high idle switch for these cars, I was thinking of using a 12V solenoid or actuator then mount it where it it moves the throttle arm on the injection pump where the desired RPM is. When the flip of a switch.

Just thinking you know how we cant leave anything alone  ;)
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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Reply #233October 25, 2011, 01:04:56 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #233 on: October 25, 2011, 01:04:56 pm »
has anyone ever though of or heard of a high idle switch for these cars, I was thinking of using a 12V solenoid or actuator then mount it where it it moves the throttle arm on the injection pump where the desired RPM is. When the flip of a switch.

Just thinking you know how we cant leave anything alone  ;)

I think there was something like that for some of the earlier AC equipped cars but I'm not in any way sure.  You may be able to adapt something from a gasser for that purpose (LOTS of gassers had that type of device).

Or get a 109-style pump with the built-in fast idle connected to the cold start handle...
Bryn

1994 Jetta - AHU M-TDI - Jezebel Jetta
2004 Jetta Wagon - 1.8T - Blitzen

Reply #234October 25, 2011, 07:56:44 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #234 on: October 25, 2011, 07:56:44 pm »
has anyone ever though of or heard of a high idle switch for these cars, I was thinking of using a 12V solenoid or actuator then mount it where it it moves the throttle arm on the injection pump where the desired RPM is. When the flip of a switch.

Just thinking you know how we cant leave anything alone  ;)

I think there was something like that for some of the earlier AC equipped cars but I'm not in any way sure.  You may be able to adapt something from a gasser for that purpose (LOTS of gassers had that type of device).

Or get a 109-style pump with the built-in fast idle connected to the cold start handle...

Im not really familiar with gassers but i might take a trip to the junk yard sometime and see what i can find! do you know what they are call or what the device is/does on the gassers?
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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Reply #235October 26, 2011, 01:39:13 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #235 on: October 26, 2011, 01:39:13 pm »
They're usually called something like an "idle compensator".  Many, many different vehicle manufacturers have used something like that (basically a device that "nudges" the throttle lever over a preset amount).  It'd have to be from something older - by the '90s most vehicles had the computer controlling idle speed with a more precise "hands on" method than just a preset nudge.  Another thing that was common on gassers was a device that would hold the throttle open a tad when you took your foot off the pedal, usually just for a second or two to allow the engine revs to reduce more smoothly.

Here's a "new" version of the idle compensator meant for a carburetor application:



http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/EDB0/8059.oap?ck=Search_N1046_EDB_-1_-1&mn=Edelbrock&mc=EDB&pt=N1046&ppt=C0261

Basically it's a device that extends slightly when fed 12V.  You'd need to figure out a way to mount it up or whatever.
Bryn

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Reply #236October 26, 2011, 02:02:27 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #236 on: October 26, 2011, 02:02:27 pm »
is that the thing i snapped off my 1986 6.9l IDI!
didn't need that anyway

i use my cold start handle to keep RPM up anytime i need more idle.. (stop lights with headlights running, etc)

Reply #237October 26, 2011, 04:48:00 pm

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #237 on: October 26, 2011, 04:48:00 pm »
Hey thanks for the link! That piece is 124 bucks ouchh!
wdkingerg do you have your old broken one?
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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Reply #238October 27, 2011, 09:37:44 am

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Re: The old blue rebuild (1983 1.6 TD)
« Reply #238 on: October 27, 2011, 09:37:44 am »
Yeah it isn't so much "what I would buy" as an example of the technology - there will be gobs of them at the wrecker's, and I can't see them charging more than $5 or so...
Bryn

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Reply #239November 22, 2011, 11:56:18 pm

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« Reply #239 on: November 22, 2011, 11:56:18 pm »
My car is at the 1200 Mile mark, Car has been running pretty good but ive have got some complaints and questions.

Car makes around 100 PSI of oil pressure cold (outside 50 Degrees F) and then when engine is completely warm it makes around 23PSI of oil pressure All at idle. Is that to low of oil pressure at idle?

Also i have a really loud lifter (I think) ticking at idle when engine is warm. Doesnt do it when the engine is cold. But i have took the valve cover off and checked the valve clearance. All checks out okay. Im just worried about dropping a valve or messing something up. Ill post a video tomorrow or thanksgiving day.

My EGT's get up to about 1400 if i hold it WOT for 30 sec. Id say that is pretty good, i have a little bit of smoke and i boost to 19PSI. I think if i turn my fuel up alitttle bit more the EGT's are going to go out the roof!

Well any replys are welcome. Thanks tell me what you all think.

-Corey
MY CARs-BLACK 99.5 Jetta TDI 5 speed 93,000- DC Stage 2 Clutch Kit 14Lb FW, Afe air intake box, 2.5" DP, 11mm IP, 2.5" stright piped, boost gauge, PP764, RC5 (WOW), 3-Bar, McNally EGT/Boost, 17/22, Race Pipe, EGR Cooler Delete, PD lift pump, R32 MAF housing,FMIC

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