Author Topic: TDI Piston  (Read 9121 times)

July 14, 2010, 09:33:14 am

Helliouse

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 164
TDI Piston
« on: July 14, 2010, 09:33:14 am »
Hello,
I am looking for either a good TDI piston, ALH or BHW piston to measure. If not I need dimensions for:
- Wrist pin Dia.
- Wrist pin length
- Piston Thickness above Pin to bottom of piston
- Compression Height

The shop that worked on my engine didn't give me back my pistons. They where still good as well, hence the reason I ask.

Thanks
Brad
1990 Jetta TD...Its a Project! And wait...its built in Wolfsberg! swEEt - 1.6l TD = Dead... TDI ALH in the works...

Reply #1July 15, 2010, 02:30:19 pm

Helliouse

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 164
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2010, 02:30:19 pm »
I am asking so i can get custom pistons made. No one has a spare? One good one out of 4 dead? lol

Brad
1990 Jetta TD...Its a Project! And wait...its built in Wolfsberg! swEEt - 1.6l TD = Dead... TDI ALH in the works...

Reply #2July 15, 2010, 03:04:09 pm

Vincent Waldon

  • Global Moderator
  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 3255
    • My collection of HOWTOs
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2010, 03:04:09 pm »
Sorry don't have any on the shelf at the moment... but thought I'd check to ensure you know there are two different pistons... 1/2 are the same and 3/4 are the same.
Vince

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
2001 silver TDI Jetta Malone Stage 1.5 , 2001 blue TDI Jetta SBIII 216s Malone Stage 3, 1970 Bay Window bus

Gone but not forgotten: 1969/1971 Beetles, 1969/1974 Westies, 1979 Rabbit, 1986 TD Jetta, 1992 gas Jetta, 1994 TD Jetta

Reply #3July 16, 2010, 08:11:26 am

Helliouse

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 164
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 08:11:26 am »
Yes slightly different. the mirror of each other.
1990 Jetta TD...Its a Project! And wait...its built in Wolfsberg! swEEt - 1.6l TD = Dead... TDI ALH in the works...

Reply #4July 17, 2010, 06:09:39 pm

oldskool rich

  • Veteran

  • Offline
  • ***

  • 446
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2010, 06:09:39 pm »
why would you get pistons made? trust me standard ones can take a beeting, will also cost you millions too


f6squared I.D.S.T

Reply #5July 18, 2010, 10:38:29 am

Rabbit on Roids

  • Guest
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 10:38:29 am »
i think andy2 is running stock pistons in his 400hp cast iron headed compounded TDI...

Reply #6July 18, 2010, 02:40:22 pm

OM617

  • Guest
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 02:40:22 pm »
Very unlikely.

Reply #7July 20, 2010, 07:29:09 am

Helliouse

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 164
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 07:29:09 am »
Hello,
A set of custom pistons are not that much more then a set of new ones. And it will allow me to have a custom shaped bowl. Lighter Weight, and possibly better oil cooling.
Also if I find one, I will put a 16v Head on which will require a different pistons.

Question for those who ask why. Why not put stock pistons back in your high performance gas engine? I am sure they would take a tone of abuse too.
When you want to run on the edge you run everything component you can to make sure you stay on the edge and not fall off of it.

Brad
1990 Jetta TD...Its a Project! And wait...its built in Wolfsberg! swEEt - 1.6l TD = Dead... TDI ALH in the works...

Reply #8July 20, 2010, 09:55:38 am

Rabbit on Roids

  • Guest
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 09:55:38 am »
are the custom machined pistons really gonna be much tougher than stock? or are you just looking at custom because you can change the bowl and valve reliefs?

Reply #9July 21, 2010, 07:32:01 am

Helliouse

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 164
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 07:32:01 am »
Mostly to adjust the bowl for the change in shape of high performance nozzles, as well as higher RPM operation.
1990 Jetta TD...Its a Project! And wait...its built in Wolfsberg! swEEt - 1.6l TD = Dead... TDI ALH in the works...

Reply #10July 21, 2010, 09:26:24 am

Rabbit on Roids

  • Guest
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2010, 09:26:24 am »
thats what i figured.. keep us updated.. hopefully its gonna be a fire breather..

Reply #11July 24, 2010, 09:20:32 am

Pat Dolan

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 163
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2010, 09:20:32 am »
Mostly to adjust the bowl for the change in shape of high performance nozzles, as well as higher RPM operation.
What's with Red Deer anyhow?  I was there a few weeks ago and met Cam Kool....you guys have more toys and ambition than I would expect in a city 10x the size.

Back OT: who were you going to use to make pistons? 
lifetime VW enthusiast, racer, fixer, addict, etc.
'03 TDI Variant, MkII Golf Country, Mk1 and II Scirocco (gassers), a Vanagon aircooled, an Audi 2.0 TD waiting to become a Porsche TD (in my M471 924), FLD120/DDEC IV, Ford 7.3/450, Iveco D220 and some 6D14T Mitsus and a few more.

Reply #12August 06, 2010, 05:21:59 am

1579

  • Guest
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 05:21:59 am »
Hey,

I have one spare AHU TDI piston. It's in decent shape.

If that will help you out, email me at [email protected]

BRandon

Reply #13August 30, 2010, 06:48:09 am

shortysclimbin

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 138
    • Performance Diesel Engineering
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2010, 06:48:09 am »
Make sure you get the hardened steel ring seats in the pistons you are having made up... This is the biggest issue with forged aftermarket pistons besides having to run larger clearances.   From what I have found changing stock pistons structure is the best solution besides getting Mahle to custom cast some.  If you need some pistons customized let me know. I have done quite a few sets including some for the EU guys.  One of them is at the 250WHP range right now trying to get to 280WHP with my 16:1CR setup.

Reply #14August 30, 2010, 07:33:23 am

syncroserge

  • Junior

  • Offline
  • **

  • 116
Re: TDI Piston
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2010, 07:33:23 am »
... I need dimensions for:
- Wrist pin Dia.      26mm
- Wrist pin length        66mm
- Piston Thickness above Pin to bottom of piston      47,5mm
- Compression Height       46mm (center of wrist pin to top of piston)

hth,

Serge
Westfalia Syncro '91 TDI se transforme lentement
mais sūrement en 16".

Jetta '97 TDI