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Reply #90July 19, 2010, 03:38:54 pm

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Re: The Rebirth of Smokey Eddy - The 1.9 Saga
« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2010, 03:38:54 pm »
why re use an oil pump on a new build? thats not very good practice.. unless the oil pump you have is extremely low miles.. but it still came from a grenaded engine..

I of course took the pump apart and inspected it... I'm not totally inept. There was no maring on the gears, housing or anything. It was clear nothing went through it. Nothing is worn and it still spins freely. (if you've ever taken one of these apart you'll know they are extremely simple. For those who have not - they are literally just two gears that turn away from each other and in doing so it moves oil from one side to the other and at speed im sure they do this at quite a rate=pressure)

Also, i don't exactly have a ton of cash and im not about to take out a loan to buy an oil pump. So it will have to do unless of course you want to donate me a new one?

Just so we're all clear (and im not trying to be a jerk here) I don't build engines for a living. i figured that much was obvious. This car is all i have and i need it to go to work inside summer & university outside of summer. I really enjoy working on it and talking to you guys but it's much more of a nessesity for me as it is a fun project. that being said i know i really should take out a student loan and buy some el-cheapo crap cart with a warranty but that's not the type of person I am. I'm not saying to follow my practices, in fact i advise against it [the last engine i touched exploded after 20k km for goodness sake]. I'm starting to invest a decent amount of money into it now i agree and a new pump would be wise but i'd rather, sorry not i'd rather - i have to bank on, use[ing] the low pressure warning system as my insurance policy and replace the pump when it becomes an issue.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2010, 03:58:08 pm by Smokey Eddy »
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Reply #91July 19, 2010, 03:39:24 pm

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Re: The Rebirth of Smokey Eddy - The 1.9 Saga
« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2010, 03:39:24 pm »
Two suggestions at this point:

1) let's pick one thread or the other to troubleshoot this issue... watching two threads is hard on my brain.  ;-)


yeah sorry im really bad at that.

No apology needed.. my suggestion was more about how we could be as helpful as possible as you solve this latest puzzle... and you'll solve 'er for sure.
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Reply #92July 19, 2010, 05:48:04 pm

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Re: The Rebirth of Smokey Eddy - The 1.9 Saga
« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2010, 05:48:04 pm »
From what I've heard the oil pump is about the last thing to go bad on these engines.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #93July 19, 2010, 06:10:55 pm

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« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2010, 06:10:55 pm »
oil pumps generally dont go bad on any engine, but it is common practice to replace them when you do a re-build, or get a new, unknown past engine..

Reply #94July 19, 2010, 08:41:29 pm

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« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2010, 08:41:29 pm »
$100 would buy a new oil pump.  That's not unreasonable for the heart of your engine.  I do have a used one though if you are interested.  Cover the cost of shipping and it's yours.
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Reply #95July 19, 2010, 11:36:57 pm

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« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2010, 11:36:57 pm »
I've seen some cheap new oil pumps Id definitely bin in favor of an inspected OEM  used one.

Reply #96July 20, 2010, 02:35:31 am

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« Reply #96 on: July 20, 2010, 02:35:31 am »
I made the 1.6 one work. I'll post pics in a few.

by the way, she started this evening ;)




This shows where it was hitting the flange.

this is my "fix" i removed a lot of material. It's hard to tell in the picture because its so smooth but i removed probably 4mm of material on that side. And before i get ragged on i covered the pump when i did this AND i cleaned it with varsol afterwards. I plan on changing the oil after 2 hours of run time anyways.


My oil cooler :)  (I have since clamped those lines with good clamps)


« Last Edit: July 20, 2010, 03:06:44 am by Smokey Eddy »
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
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Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #97July 20, 2010, 08:08:38 am

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« Reply #97 on: July 20, 2010, 08:08:38 am »
Looks awesome!  Glad to hear it's running again.  It will be interesting to see the differences between this engine and your last one.  My guess would be more bottom end torque with slightly less high revving capability.  Nice work.
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Reply #98July 20, 2010, 08:11:57 am

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« Reply #98 on: July 20, 2010, 08:11:57 am »
i would wrap the oil lines with something. so they dont rub on the subframe.

good work on all this tho.

Reply #99July 20, 2010, 08:54:11 am

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« Reply #99 on: July 20, 2010, 08:54:11 am »
she started this evening ;)

 :) :) :)


Yuppers... very clean install and a good solution... still don't understand why you had interference, but you fixed 'er up, real good!
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Reply #100July 20, 2010, 09:01:43 am

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« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2010, 09:01:43 am »
One of the most important things I was taught in school was "just because it's new doesn't mean it's any good, it just means you spent a lot of money on it."

Glad to hear you got it running. As always though, videos or it never happened.
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Reply #101July 20, 2010, 09:19:56 am

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« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2010, 09:19:56 am »
Great work, Ed! I can't wait to get a ride in this monster!

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #102July 20, 2010, 09:38:28 am

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« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2010, 09:38:28 am »
Good news Ed, now drive it to Calgary  ;D

Reply #103July 20, 2010, 09:41:08 am

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« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2010, 09:41:08 am »
wanna meet half way and drag?

lol..

Reply #104July 20, 2010, 01:10:03 pm

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« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2010, 01:10:03 pm »
I'll waste ya kev ;)
naw my 3,000watt stereo will weigh me down. I didn't realize it was 2,900 watts till i counted the speakers and amps to juice em...

videos or it never happened hahahahah
i need to cut the power steering lines and join them first.
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White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD