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May 07, 2010, 02:37:41 pm

Smokey Eddy

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Someone convince me otherwise...
« on: May 07, 2010, 02:37:41 pm »
My engine shat it's self. time for a swap?
considering...
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/pts/1681645457.html
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #1May 07, 2010, 03:10:06 pm

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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 03:10:06 pm »
You'd need to change a couple major things to make that work.  First, the tranny, that fits the 02A, not the 020.  Second, you'd have the joy of finding all the associated computers and wiring that are needed to run it and adding them to your existing car and wiring harness.  Does it include the computer and sensors, or would you have to find them somewhere else?  Third, you'd have to add the fuel pump and filter assembly.  Finally, and most importantly, you'd have to leave here and go hang out on the whoretex.   :P  
Seriously, you could give me that motor, and I'd sell it to buy a nice 1.9 head and turbo.  8)
Did you get the block lifted out?  Let me know if you need a hand.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2010, 03:20:15 pm by Runt »
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Reply #2May 07, 2010, 03:11:02 pm

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Re: Someone convince me otherwise...
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 03:11:02 pm »
Seems expensive.

Reply #3May 07, 2010, 03:21:47 pm

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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 03:21:47 pm »
Yeah i know it would be a PITA. 1200 does seem like a lot but it seems to have almost no miles on it?

Still waiting on the hoist.
Ed
Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
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Reply #4May 07, 2010, 05:44:14 pm

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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 05:44:14 pm »
Lots of work. We are thinking of dropping a VR into a MK2, You would need a complete donor car. because the cross members need to be changed, axels, clutch system, shifter linkages. 

Lots of work man, Would look pretty sweet thou
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Reply #5May 07, 2010, 06:37:01 pm

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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2010, 06:37:01 pm »
Sooo many people put a vr into mk2s!
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #6May 07, 2010, 06:46:22 pm

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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 06:46:22 pm »
I've seen a very, very nice 24v VR6 in a swallowtail...

Reply #7May 07, 2010, 07:56:39 pm

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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2010, 07:56:39 pm »
If I kill my motor too easily, I'll be going either 16VT or VR6T... they certainly do have some real sex appeal.

Like the others said, it is a fair bit of work to swap a VR6 into a diesel. Particularly a 24V. Cheap 12V VR's exist; that would be more sensible; much less electrical to run.

And as far as convincing you towards the diesel; you'll have it back on the road soon and for waay cheaper than a new swap. With a 1.9 block and your current turbo setup, it'll be faster than a stock VR6 anyway. And better on fuel. And way more unique/badass.
So you're looking at either a lot of work/money to turbo the VR or leave the VR stock and not really gain anything.

VR's are still awesome though

*edit* http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/1729622635.html
That and some megasquirt would have me tempted if I were in your shoes.
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enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #8May 07, 2010, 08:04:59 pm

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 08:04:59 pm »
If I kill my motor too easily, I'll be going either 16VT or VR6T... they certainly do have some real sex appeal.

Like the others said, it is a fair bit of work to swap a VR6 into a diesel. Particularly a 24V. Cheap 12V VR's exist; that would be more sensible; much less electrical to run.

And as far as convincing you towards the diesel; you'll have it back on the road soon and for waay cheaper than a new swap. With a 1.9 block and your current turbo setup, it'll be faster than a stock VR6 anyway. And better on fuel. And way more unique/badass.
So you're looking at either a lot of work/money to turbo the VR or leave the VR stock and not really gain anything.

VR's are still awesome though

*edit* http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/1729622635.html
That and some megasquirt would have me tempted if I were in your shoes.

you won't kill an AAZ if you do the TDI crank gear mod.  ;)
Ed
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White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #9May 07, 2010, 08:46:45 pm

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 08:46:45 pm »
I sure will if I'm running K14, K24 and HX35 turbo's in compound up to 70psi boost!  ;D ;D

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #10May 07, 2010, 08:47:48 pm

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 08:47:48 pm »
uhhh
how do you plan on fueling that disaster? :P Sounds more like more turbine than engine at that point.
you have an engine to fuels a series of turbines that drive the car.
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Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
White 1999.5 ALH Golf 2dr. Low & wide. Rammed off the road RIP.
Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #11May 07, 2010, 08:51:55 pm

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 08:51:55 pm »
Either 2 pumps in parallel running into the same injection lines or a Bosch P7100 pump!

Ask me how I'm going to keep the charge air cool!  ;)

No, wait, I'll just tell you.

1st, Air/Water intercooler
2nd, FMIC
3rd, intercooler that's uses an A/C evaporator. Not sure exactly how that one will work out

enough boost is when you have 3 dimple marks in the hood from the valve cover nuts..  ;D

Reply #12May 07, 2010, 08:52:35 pm

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 08:52:35 pm »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
ZOMG
Can you please me serious? i want to help you with this.
Ed
Blacked out mk2 AAZ Jetta RIP. You are missed.
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Blue 2009 CR140 Jetta CBEA/CJAA. Malone stage 2. EGR/DPF/Exhaust-valve deletes. 2.5" open exhaust. ADP Turbo swap. 1-stage nitrous kit. THROWN ROD

Reply #13May 08, 2010, 08:21:17 am

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you have an engine to fuels a series of turbines that drive the car.

i had to laugh Ed...

Reply #14May 08, 2010, 08:57:37 am

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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 08:57:37 am »
Think fuel cost... In the 36 weeks I've driven my diesel conversion, it cost $1200 in fuel, my other car would have cost $3600.... and that's at yesterdays fuel prices. They are only going to go us. Don't you think the reaction to BP's mess will be $4.00 / gallon of cheap gas ? At the OEM I work at, we are banking on the cost of fuel going up....

Not to mention with the V6 you can't run free fuel ( WVO, WMO, W-ATF, etc) in your mix.

Stay with us,,, don't go to the dark side !!!   8)

Beside, I don't want to be the only one here running a Prothe 1.9TD head on my 1.6D.