1984 Jetta , TDI WE MUST! (1.9 AHU M-TDI)

[theman53]

only because I have seen it before, but if I hadn't no. I know cars but that was too little for me to identify the old muscle from.

[8v-of-fury]

So if you guys look on the last page and see my pictures, you'll see I have fixed up the rust around the car with a good etching, filling, rust inhibiting primer spots. I think after I get the TDI in there.. I want to strip it all down and spray it all with a few coats of the red oxide primer, but that means i have to follow through with paint...

Ugh I hate body work lol! With a PASSION

WWJD??

[8v-of-fury]

Fired the TDI up today on the stand! Hooked up all the engine wiring, sat the computer aside, hooked it all in to the fusebox. Plugged in the cluster, and the ignition harness.

Upon turning the key I can get the IP to get power and click on, and the load relay clicks on. I don't know if the computer gets power or not as the cluster never actually turns on (like when you turn the key and the idiot lights come on..). Turning to start will click off the load relay, but wont engage the starter. Turning the key to Run, and manually jumping the starter post and the engine fired right up after sitting since October . So to me, I think if the motor started, and was running.. the computer must have been getting power..?

[catlin_cava]

Try this, it helped me

http://www.customobsessions.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=30603&highlight=

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If its a manual trans. then it needs to see the clutch depressed. But good to hear you go it running.

[8v-of-fury]

Catlin, I think your was different because you swapped motors? I mean I have all the stock wiring and everything native to this TDI motor and cluster.. just out of the vehicle. I'm gonna ask about it in your CS thread if you don't mind lol.

PBS, yes it is a manual trans. I labeled the three or so plugs that went on the pedal cluster. However, I don't know which needs to be jumped.. I mean i guess jumping all three wouldn't hurt right? Brake lights that don't exist will be powered.. and the other i have no idea what its for lol.

[catlin_cava]

Catlin, I think your was different because you swapped motors? I mean I have all the stock wiring and everything native to this TDI motor and cluster.. just out of the vehicle. I'm gonna ask about it in your CS thread if you don't mind lol.

But I used ALL the 2.0 Harness, does your ODO and Clock light up?

[8v-of-fury]

Yeah the odo and clock light up, so the cluster is getting a power.. But it never sees the key being turned on.

[catlin_cava]

Yeah the odo and clock light up, so the cluster is getting a power.. But it never sees the key being turned on.

FOLLOWED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! whats it going to hurt? come on!!!! I hooked up all my cables right and it didn't work, clock and odo worked but nothing else. I jumpped the wires and VOILA!!!!

Do it, I bet you a Coffee!
if it works you owe me a Coffee, if it doesn;'t I owe you one

[8v-of-fury]

Ok, so you have to jump those two wires together separate of the fuse box? Why though is my question.. Why doesn't it just work? It worked in the car lol. All the wires that ever went to the fusebox are still there and intact. Makes 0 sense

[8v-of-fury]

So I was out fiddling with stuff in the garage and i decided to give this E2-D8 jumping a go.

I DON'T HAVE EITHER THE E OR D WIRING HARNESS.... (insert a whole butt-ton of foul language).. Why do i not have them? Where do these two harnesses go once they leave the fusebox? My friend still has the shell i pulled this all from so if need be I can go give it a look see.

[CRSMP5]

i just wish you would listen to me and do a complete ce2 swap... on myke_w when i wired up his tdi stuff into his ce2.. there are 2 wires that need jumped else you get your issue.. no sorry not been watching.. his 88/89 is ce2 but well did not include the jumper..

if you would just use the complete ce2.. you would have said jumper.. splicing in tails/headlights/heater is far simpler then what your doing...

hit him up for his info... he had dl it from someplace.. and it was a direct walk thru on this jumper and such..

[8v-of-fury]

splicing in tails/headlights/heater is far simpler then what your doing...

Hardly . It's s'all good, got that ish figured out. Contacted the MASTER of mk3 cluster/engine/wiring/ecu crap to mk1 swaps. The two pins E2 and D8 need to have a wire between them. Problem solved. Please tell me how rewiring the ENTIRE car is far more simple? LoL

I contemplated CE2 swap way back, but there was absolutely reason too. It would have created way more work than necessary, plus the wiring in the 81 is fine.

Thanks for the info man! I'll contact him see if hes got any tips Hows your swap coming along?

[CRSMP5]

mine is on hold at moment due to 86 vr6t coupe project.. gotta rearrange the work area to accept the crunched 82 caddy as its storage is going away.. still not found a place to put the extended caddy.. but i still have hopes to have my coupe together by 8th of july weekend for mk1 madness..

[8v-of-fury]

I need ideas on how to take my 81 which is nose towards the garage on a hill driveway, turn it around and push it in the garage somehow in place of my Mercury..