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#15
by
theman53
on 30 Mar, 2010 18:45
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Yeah I ripped the plastic liner I pulled so hard and I did put it in gear and rocked it back and forth. The metal tab that it shows in the bentley is up and the rubber piece, but no go. The added benefit of me never having on out to see what the heck isn't helping either. That cable and the passenger rear mount is all that is keeping me from selling that old N/A block to the guy in the FS section and me getting my engine in there.
Please more help...short of 2 stroke gas and match though. Here is the pic again.
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#16
by
rabbitman
on 30 Mar, 2010 19:07
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#17
by
theman53
on 30 Mar, 2010 19:19
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nope, good call though. I will if I don't have anymore ideas.
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#18
by
burn_your_money
on 30 Mar, 2010 19:22
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Does it push in any?
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#19
by
theman53
on 30 Mar, 2010 19:29
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nope, I have pushed and pulled in every direction which makes me think it is something simple that I am just overlooking. Hence the pic and asking the smart fellers out there in VW land. I have sprayed it with lubes, pulled with pliers, wiggled, danced, and tried holding my mouth in different ways...still no dice.
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#20
by
maxfax
on 30 Mar, 2010 19:44
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That looks rusted in there nicely.. Maybe Broke has a better idea, but the last one I had that looked like that I ended up destroying the cable to get it out.. Cut the housing, pull what is left of the cable out, screw a lag bolt in and used the slide hammer...
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#21
by
theman53
on 30 Mar, 2010 20:01
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if that has to happen, where do I get another cable and gear. Please let me get it out though.
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#22
by
maxfax
on 30 Mar, 2010 20:09
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Chances are the gear will be fine.. If you end up needing a cable gimme a shout, I got one or six laying around I can ship your direction.. MK2 right?
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#23
by
theman53
on 30 Mar, 2010 20:28
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yep
Sounds good. I guess I could try the vice grips again and just keep pulling. My one pal told me not to break the cable as a little piece will fall into the trans and then you have to go trans fishing. I don't know about that though?
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#24
by
maxfax
on 30 Mar, 2010 20:32
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Here's what you are dealing with down below..
Gear Removed
The gear is only connected to the cable itself by a little snap ring that fits inside the gear.. When you cut the cable and pull the remaining core out you would run the risk of the gear fallin in.. The one I cut the cable on I was tearing the trans down so it wasn't a big deal.. But if you could get a lag in there and leave the remaining cable core int eh gear you would at least maybe be able to get it with a magnet...
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#25
by
drrtybyl
on 30 Mar, 2010 20:48
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I had this same problem when I removed the 1.5 from my rabbit. The cable and plastic gear would not budge. I'm guessing it had never been removed before. In the end, impatience led me to snip the cable. Once the transmission was on a table I was able to pry the gear out using a flathead/vice grip without too much trouble.
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#26
by
fatmobile
on 30 Mar, 2010 23:34
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Stick a screwdriver under the metal cup and pry it out.
Can you see there is a metal lip around the hole.
Get something under it and pry it out of the trany hole.
Don't lose the plastic gear in the trany,..
if you just pull the cable really hard, when it lets go it will probably catch the plastic gear on the edge of the hole as it pulls out and the plastic gear will fall into the trany.
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#27
by
rabbitman
on 31 Mar, 2010 01:17
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Yeah I forgot about that cup, last tranny I pulled was kind of a pain iirc. Had to really tweek on it to get it out, I also pried under the cup to loosen it.........but it was -30F so things were stiff
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A mk2 cable at napa was $35 a couple weeks ago, without a gear.
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#28
by
burn_your_money
on 31 Mar, 2010 04:57
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When most people lose the gear in there they just forget about it. Steel > plastic is the theory. They just change the fluid a couple hundred later
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#29
by
theman53
on 31 Mar, 2010 04:59
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Now I am seeing a bit... The metal that the bolt holds down that makes it L shaped from that pic is already up. The round part and gear is all that is left in the hole. As you can see I have scratched with a screw driver in my pic and no luck yet, but now I know what I am looking for.
Idea: would it be fine to run a tek screw into the round part while in the trans and pry like crazy. Take it out and put it in 180 degrees and do the same over and over? This would deform it and hopefully make it all come out in one piece. If that sounds good to you guys I think I will do it. The round part comes with a new cable and the only separate peice is the gear right?