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September 10, 2009, 05:55:41 am

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Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« on: September 10, 2009, 05:55:41 am »
http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/adding-2-stroke-oil-to-diesel-tank--read-this_topic37935.html

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/dev/adding-2-stroke-oil-fuel-t185643.html?t=185643

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f24/2-stroke-oil-191674/

Just a few here....
A friend of mine works for an oil company so I thought I'd ask him. He says as far as lubrication goes, yes for sure it's better than any diesel lubricant additive on the market. If you go ash less, its not gonna cause carbon build up, BUT it may or may not eat your seals in the IP....

I really can't see tho how it would give you better mpg :P It may reduce the friction in your IP but my how much??? I don't think it's enough to notice a difference in mpg....

Reply #1September 10, 2009, 06:42:59 am

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2009, 06:42:59 am »
Wow, most interesting was on page 3 of that last link, the dieselplace.com testing of common diesel fuel additives on untreated ULSD- I always thought that the Stanadyne stuff was the standard but it actually made it worse!  I'd like them to run the test over again from a sample of "normal" pump ULSD.

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Reply #2September 10, 2009, 06:54:03 am

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2009, 06:54:03 am »
Well I'll try it in the common 125:1 mix ratio. We'll see if it does anything. I'm just very paranoid about the lubricity of ULSD.....

Reply #3September 10, 2009, 09:24:27 am

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2009, 09:24:27 am »
i ran a concoction of used motor oil, white gasoline, 2 cycle oil and transmission fluid in my car once. ive never had quite so much power off of anything besides diesel. it was nuts really, how much more power it had and there wasnt a drop of diesel in the fuel tank.

Reply #4September 10, 2009, 10:51:34 am

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2009, 10:51:34 am »
 ;D 1:200 two stroke works for me.

I'm a bit wary of ATF as many contain "friction modifiers" for the clutch bands.
Sand is an excellent friction modifier! ;D
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Reply #5September 10, 2009, 11:12:31 am

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2009, 11:12:31 am »
Been using this for some months now, no more mpg or smoke reduction but much quieter when cold and a little smoother. tbh I only seen the benefit when I stopped, Ive since started again, low ash non synthetic walmarts (asda) cheapest!

Reply #6September 10, 2009, 11:34:14 am

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2009, 11:34:14 am »
white gasoline, 2

What is it and where do you get it?

Reply #7September 10, 2009, 05:06:06 pm

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2009, 05:06:06 pm »
white gasoline, 2

What is it and where do you get it?

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Reply #8September 10, 2009, 06:50:31 pm

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2009, 06:50:31 pm »
when it's above 60F I run a mix of 4 gals used canola oil, .9 gals used gasoline from the local auto crusher, and 1oz. of turpentine in my IDI vehicles.
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Reply #9September 10, 2009, 06:55:46 pm

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2009, 06:55:46 pm »
i ran a concoction of used motor oil, white gasoline, 2 cycle oil and transmission fluid in my car once. ive never had quite so much power off of anything besides diesel. it was nuts really, how much more power it had and there wasnt a drop of diesel in the fuel tank.

That's impressive!! you provided the lubrication, and MADD BTU's You made your own fuel (that im gonna say is better then Diesel)

I think the reason you noticed so much extra power was because you actually did have it. Motor Oil has like a ton more BTU to it then Diesel does.. You had a bad-ass fuel concoction there :)

Reply #10September 11, 2009, 04:29:20 am

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2009, 04:29:20 am »
i ran a concoction of used motor oil, white gasoline, 2 cycle oil and transmission fluid in my car once. ive never had quite so much power off of anything besides diesel. it was nuts really, how much more power it had and there wasnt a drop of diesel in the fuel tank.

That's impressive!! you provided the lubrication, and MADD BTU's You made your own fuel (that im gonna say is better then Diesel)

I think the reason you noticed so much extra power was because you actually did have it. Motor Oil has like a ton more BTU to it then Diesel does.. You had a bad-ass fuel concoction there :)








WOW!can we get the mix for this??? what are the ratios? It would be a bit exspensive, but who the hell cares. Awesome jub bro!
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Reply #11September 11, 2009, 06:01:55 am

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2009, 06:01:55 am »
two cycle oil works real good to add extra lubricity to the pump and it doesnt smoke on burning - mates RX7 and RX8 lives on 2S oil mixed with petrol - another mates stupid mercedes ponton diesel uses 2S oil to run smoothly otherwise the pump decides not to play fair
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Reply #12September 11, 2009, 09:22:20 am

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2009, 09:22:20 am »
well guys, i could never mix up that concoction ever again. i wanted to go do something, and there was no diesel around the house and my tank was empty. started looking around. found a couple gals of waste oil, dumped a quart or so of trans fluid in, poured in some white gasoline (coleman fuel, not kerosene.. there is a difference) and a BUNCH of two cycle oil. probably almost a quart of that too. mixed it up in a gas can and poured it in. made myself around 4 gallons of racing diesel :) i know it works tho, because my car easily lights up the tires in 2nd gear with my home brew in the tank. no 100 foot long posi-trac 2nd gear burn outs on normal diesel, even if its red.. (whats currently in my tank  :-X)

Reply #13September 11, 2009, 09:26:58 am

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2009, 09:26:58 am »
oh yea, i still have 3 gallons kicking around if someone could do an analysis to how much of what it has in it, i dunno if you can do that, but i have some left. and im sure that i could probably come up with some sort of recipe for it. my car even started easier with my own fuel, and made less ignition ping at idle. the fuel looks gnar tho, it looks just like straight black motor oil. but smells like coleman fuel and trans fluid. i kinda almost think i mixed about a half gallon oil, a quart trans, a half quart 2c oil and half quart of coleman fuel. sucks when you burn it tho, it smells like your rings are shot. lol

Reply #14September 11, 2009, 12:06:20 pm

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Re: Can someone verify this? - 2S oil in diesel as lubricant?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2009, 12:06:20 pm »
Once I rebuild my engine, I'm gonna make some.  Thanks, rabbitonroids.  Any clue as to the kind and type of use motor oil it is? and the type of tranny fluid?  does it mix well together, or does it seperate and have to be mixed again?  I think you should get on this and sell your own recipe as a patent brother, you may just have something here. :o
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