weight of complete 1.6 and 1.9 TD engines

[ilikevwdiesel]

anybody know the weight of a complete MF or AAZ engine, complete meaning engine with pump, turbo, alternator and clutch/flywheel?

thanks in advance

[Syncroincity]

Weight of a complete AAZ is 400 lbs. I shipped one in a wood crate, it was 432 lbs

[ilikevwdiesel]

thanks I appreciate that info.

[theman53]

lifted this from a rebuilder site for the 1.6
Shipping Weights:
1-Block 80 lbs
2-Head 35 lbs
3-Crank 38 lbs
4-Rods 6 lbs
5-Pistons 8 lbs
6-Oil Pump 5 lbs
7-Oil Pan & Valve Cover 8 lbs
8-Gasket Set & Bearings 3 lbs
Total Weight For Kit 183 lbs

[arb]

lifted this from a rebuilder site for the 1.6
Shipping Weights:
1-Block 80 lbs
2-Head 35 lbs
3-Crank 38 lbs
4-Rods 6 lbs
5-Pistons 8 lbs
6-Oil Pump 5 lbs
7-Oil Pan & Valve Cover 8 lbs
8-Gasket Set & Bearings 3 lbs
Total Weight For Kit 183 lbs

That feels about right... my Caravan is really sitting high with such a light engine...

[Rabbit on Roids]

400 lbs is not light
a small block chevy is 525 or something dressed running.
i can not lift 400 lbs, i dont care what anyone says. and i can pack a whole 1.6 MF.
a 22r weighs 315 lbs fully dressed. i can pack one of those too..

[Laurentian]

Great post, always wondered about weight for choosing a suspension.
Most coils are available fo 8V, 16V,. or V6 swap for MKII.
Would also like to know weight of :

8V
16V
V6
MF
AAZ

Thanks much if anyone knows

[Turbinepowered]

400 lbs is not light
a small block chevy is 525 or something dressed running.
i can not lift 400 lbs, i dont care what anyone says. and i can pack a whole 1.6 MF.
a 22r weighs 315 lbs fully dressed. i can pack one of those too..

Is your rabbit on roids or are you? 

For what it's worth... my personal record is a pair of shortblocks at once. I had chains, and I had my nifty little shackle plates that I made to lift and move shortblocks more easily, secured fore and aft with two 11mm bolts...

I only had to go a short way, but I'd be willing to be those shortblocks (gasser 8v) totaled over three hundred. There doesn't seem to be a hugely noticeable difference between a 1.8 8v gasser shortblock and a nonturbo 1.6 diesel shortblock.

[arb]

400 lbs is not light
a small block chevy is 525 or something dressed running.
i can not lift 400 lbs, i dont care what anyone says. and i can pack a whole 1.6 MF.
a 22r weighs 315 lbs fully dressed. i can pack one of those too..

Is your rabbit on roids or are you? 

For what it's worth... my personal record is a pair of shortblocks at once. I had chains, and I had my nifty little shackle plates that I made to lift and move shortblocks more easily, secured fore and aft with two 11mm bolts...

I only had to go a short way, but I'd be willing to be those shortblocks (gasser 8v) totaled over three hundred. There doesn't seem to be a hugely noticeable difference between a 1.8 8v gasser shortblock and a nonturbo 1.6 diesel shortblock.

I'm with you :-) Although I usually agree with Rabbit on Roids, my personal experience is the 1.6L TD is lighter than th Dodge 2.5 NA engine my Caravan had OEM.

[Rabbit on Roids]

no no no. just because im 6'7" doesnt mean im on roids. those engines are NOT 400 lbs. a 22r is WAY WAY bigger than a MF.
i will take a pic side by side just to prove a point if i have to. these engines are NOT 400 lbs. i dont care what anyone says. no one can tell me that one is 400. the V6 out of my toyota isnt even 400, and it has 2 heads, 2 more pistons, 1 more cam, and a bunch more *** than a 1.6. they weigh like 250 to 300 lbs max. i would bet my left nut on it!

[theman53]

Maybe that AAZ was shipped with a tranny? I would think that the aaz block couldn't be much more than the 1.6 since they will basically bolt up in the same engine compartment with no problems I would guess that it would be just over 200?
Rabbit on roids:  I am with you on the carrying engine stuff. My best was carrying a Ford 400 Just block crank and pistons 25 to 30 yards to my trailer to haul away. That was 14 years ago when I was a powerlifter and not worried about hurting myself. I could deadlift 700lbs, but never got it clean in competition. I have no idea what that 400 weighed but it was about all I could handle!

[catlin_cava]

If me and my old man can pick up an AAZ with little fight they ain't 400lbs lol.

[Rabbit on Roids]

FINALLY! last time we went over this, i lost bad, everyone agreed with someone else that these engines are NOT 400 lbs. c'mon guys, a small block chevy V8 is ALL CAST IRON. they have 2 heads! and a huge block! there is no chance a 1.6 or 1.9 with or without trans and accessories weighs within 100 lbs of a small block. they are like 300 max, and thats with a trans and flywheel bolted on still. but yea, i think a safe weight is about 200 lbs. maybe 250 if it has all the accessories still.

[ilikevwdiesel]

Jack at VWdieselparts.com sez a complete 1.6 TD weighs in at 385 lbs. I have no reason to doubt him he's probably shipped a hundred of em in his day.

[smutts]

Just heaving the head with the turbo attached nearly killed me! What is it made of, depleted uranium?