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June 26, 2009, 07:54:40 pm

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First start
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So im trying to get the diesel to start after the turbo swap and im having no luck getting fuel to the pump. Tips, tricks?

Reply #1June 26, 2009, 08:16:02 pm

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Re: First start
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009, 08:16:02 pm »
So im trying to get the diesel to start after the turbo swap and im having no luck getting fuel to the pump. Tips, tricks?

make sure its primed first by making sure that the pump is full of fuel.  in most cases the pump will create enough suction from that alone to suck fuel from the tank.  if that doesn't work, you'll need to pull vacuum on the return line.


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Reply #2June 26, 2009, 08:37:34 pm

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Re: First start
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009, 08:37:34 pm »
the pump has fuel in it...

How do I pull vacuum on the return line?

Reply #3June 26, 2009, 08:58:52 pm

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009, 08:58:52 pm »
Can you see fuel moving through the clear line when the engine is cranked?  The stop solenoid is getting 12 volts and clicks, right?

Couldnt see any fuel moving, but the solenoid clicks.

Should I swap it out and see if it makes a difference?

Reply #4June 26, 2009, 09:19:04 pm

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009, 09:19:04 pm »
While you are cranking to get it full of fuel and to prime the injectors don't forget to floor the pedal.  It takes forever if it's just cranking at the idle position.

Reply #5June 26, 2009, 09:38:35 pm

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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 09:38:35 pm »
Got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Small problems though.....

1. Bubbling at the base of the injectors. Just need tightening?
2. First gear is not there. Adjustment of the shifter?
3. Lotsa smoke!!!!!! Time to fiddle with stuff.

Reply #6June 27, 2009, 05:58:24 am

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Re: First start
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2009, 05:58:24 am »
1.NO!
2.Hopefullu
3.start fiddling.

1. Did you replace the injectors? If so did you use new heat sheilds? Don't tighten the injectors as that is how I learned that they crack the head if tightend much over the 51 lbs. If you didn't replace the injectors then maybe it is the return lines and looks like it is comming from the base or when you were priming the lines and they were loose the diesel could just be laying there and boiling when the head got hot. What color is the smoke?

Reply #7June 27, 2009, 07:21:40 am

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Re: First start
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2009, 07:21:40 am »
While you are cranking to get it full of fuel and to prime the injectors don't forget to floor the pedal.  It takes forever if it's just cranking at the idle position.

You can't crank at the idle position. When you are cranking you are at cranking fuel because the governor is not spinning fast enough to push the flyweights out. Holding your foot to the floor doesn't hurt though.
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Reply #8June 27, 2009, 11:03:18 am

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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2009, 11:03:18 am »
I know its in the FAQ, but Im useless without pictures, so where do I start adjusting the idle and fuel?

Im having one of those noob days....

Reply #9June 27, 2009, 11:50:46 am

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Re: First start
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2009, 11:50:46 am »



PINK= Idle
GREEN= Fuel
ORANGE= Wide open adjustment.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2009, 11:52:41 am by theman53 »

Reply #10June 27, 2009, 12:05:08 pm

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Re: First start
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2009, 12:05:08 pm »
The above is correct unless your pump has a fast idle. Then your pink adjustment is on the back of the pump
Tyler

Reply #11June 28, 2009, 09:15:09 pm

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Re: First start
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2009, 09:15:09 pm »
alright, more questions....

The oil pressure? buzzer comes on when I rev it past 3000rpm. No clue what the hell is going on there cause it just stays on even after the engine calms down.

Also, lots of smoke, idling and through the rpm range. I have my boost gauge teed in to the boost aneroid line but its not reading any boost. Could this be a boost leak somewhere attributing to all the smoke?

Reply #12June 29, 2009, 09:30:45 am

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2009, 09:30:45 am »
first off congrats on getting it running!

Secondly, can you make a drive with it to kamloops?   we can go over any other issues you may have if you can drive it.
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Reply #13June 29, 2009, 01:15:20 pm

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2009, 01:15:20 pm »
first off congrats on getting it running!

Secondly, can you make a drive with it to kamloops?   we can go over any other issues you may have if you can drive it.

Ya I've been driving it around today! And I've gotta put an exhaust on it as its just the downpipe at the moment. Ummmm I could come in tomorrow or wednesday if that works. Thanks tom.

Side note.... I lost the oil pan drain bolt today, but I caught it before I lost all the oil. Threw a new one in, 4 quarts of 15-40 and I was back on my way. This thing is not making boost. Or only a little. The turbo is spooling but theres no dramatic increase in power over the N/A.

I think it will make it to kamloops..... Might need a pair of earplugs though.

Reply #14June 29, 2009, 07:12:18 pm

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Re: First start
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2009, 07:12:18 pm »
I know its in the FAQ, but Im useless without pictures, so where do I start adjusting the idle and fuel?

Im having one of those noob days....
Don't' start fooling around with the fuel settings until you know exactly what the timing is set to and you know how to set it yourself.  Timing, compression check, full throttle adjusted so it gets there and then play with the screws.  If you start turning screws now you'll never know where you are, where you were or how to get back to where you thought you were, seriously. ;)