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turboing a non turbo 1.6?
by
fillmore
on 01 Sep, 2005 07:58
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is it possible to turbo a straight 1.6? ive got a motor in great shape, i juat did the rings, gaskets and valve seals but rust got the best of the floor so the shell of the car is no longer good to me, i did however just pick up a very mint 89 jetta gasser and i was thinking about swaping out the engine next summer so is it possible to turbo the non turbo 1.6 diesel engines? all i can think of is the turbo, the manifold, intercooler oil lines to the turbo but what else would be involved if it is possible? wastegate perhaps?
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#1
by
BlackTieTD
on 01 Sep, 2005 08:57
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you're much better off finding a complete 1.6L turbo diesel setup and swapping the works over.
you could try to turbo what you've got but, i wouldn't.
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#2
by
entuzijast
on 01 Sep, 2005 11:23
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You could but i think that won't be lasting too much...
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#3
by
vwmike
on 01 Sep, 2005 11:54
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IF you do it the biggest thing you need to watch is exhaust gas temperatures. Especially climbing long grades they can get really high and since the N/A engine doesn't have squirters it cannot cope with the high temperatures as well as the TD engine can. You could end up with melted pistons and/or cooked rings.
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#4
by
jtanguay
on 01 Sep, 2005 14:19
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you're best bet would be to get a nice small turbo, bigger exhaust, and an IC, and an EGT gauge (and possibly oil temp/pres gauge?)
as long as you don't drive it like an idiot it should hold up.
just remember don't get a big turbo... they take a longer time to spool and usually inrease egt's by a lot more than a small less restrictive turbo such as a K14
and like anyone else will add. Don't mess around too much with fueling if you're going to do this!!!
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#5
by
Northboundtrain
on 01 Sep, 2005 18:08
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just remember don't get a big turbo... they take a longer time to spool and usually inrease egt's by a lot more than a small less restrictive turbo such as a K14
Any suggestions on where to find a K14?
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#6
by
entuzijast
on 02 Sep, 2005 02:35
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Eco diesels (1V) and some of the strongest diesels with 80Hp came with K14...
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#7
by
jtanguay
on 02 Sep, 2005 04:09
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Any suggestions on where to find a K14?
which basically comes back to BlackTieTD's recommendation of trying to find a complete engine. You can definitely try the wreckers, but you'll mostly find the bigger turbo's if any at all.
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#8
by
DieselMonkey
on 02 Sep, 2005 04:41
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A Garrett GT15 or KKK K03 would be a better turbo. They use a differet bolt-up arrangment than a K14 or Garrett T2. My Eco has a K14 and its pretty good, but with 15 years on it, 122,000 miles it is starting to weep at the compressor housing, possibly blow-by though.
I have 2 GT15's (no matching manifolds), 1 K03 with 4 matching manifolds and a Garrett T2 with no maching manifold. If you have trouble getting a turbo, i would consider selling one. You'll really need a EGT gauge. Contact Evan at 42 Draft designs.
[email protected] .....its a VDO unit costing $135 with gauge and probe.
I've got a 1.6GTD block with melted pistons but n/a pistons are probably of a different alloy also, but it will take a turbo no problem. Fuel it a bit, just dont keep the fuel on when it starts to smoke.
regards, DM
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#9
by
jtanguay
on 02 Sep, 2005 14:21
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how much do you want for a K03?
?
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#10
by
DieselMonkey
on 04 Sep, 2005 09:36
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I sent you a PM
DM
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#11
by
jtanguay
on 04 Sep, 2005 14:24
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thanks!! and btw, if you're going to turbo an N/A be sure to get an oil cooler. either liquid to liquid or air/liquid type should be good
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#12
by
carrizog60
on 10 Sep, 2005 00:44
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i have a 1.6gtd but is mess...
i can arrange a 1.6D is good shape.are the oil squirters the only difference?can i swap the oil squirters to the 1.6D. my turbo is a KKK24 :?: