Author Topic: DYNO RESULTS: From NA to TD 131.9 HP (Read 10898 times)

AudiVWguy · « **on:** March 15, 2009, 12:53:36 pm »

I had an opportunity to get on the dyno at my friends shop. Here's the printout.

jtanguay · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2009, 01:58:25 pm »

thats some pretty good power

usually on a diesel the torque is higher though... that almost looks like a gasser dyno :lol: but i bet thats how Giles set the pump up.

rallydiesel · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2009, 02:29:36 pm »

Well it is a 1.6. Those act more like a gasser than the 1.9.

AudiVWguy · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2009, 07:07:51 pm »

Yeah,
I was wondering about the torque number. There's not much happening until you get above 3000 and 10 psi. The motor has never been very torquey down low. I let off a little too soon, wasn't sure what redline I could get away with.
I'm not sure what is involved with the set up to get an accuract reading. I'll get back with him to find out.

RabbitJockey · « **Reply #4 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:50:16 pm »

looks good i wonder if you could have gotten a better number if you would have wound it out to 5800 or so

jtanguay · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2009, 12:22:47 pm »

its probably best not to make much torque down low anyways... thats when you'll cook the motor or bend rods :wink:

dubmekanik · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2009, 11:54:32 am »

Hi guys. I am the one that performed the dyno test for Jeff's vehicle. These numbers are 100 percent accurate in every way. No matter how the dyno is calibrated (user calibrations) the hp will always be correct. The TQ. is a function of hp and rpm. On a diesel we always use the dyno rollers as an rpm ref and compared these to his dash tach. As long as the run matches these rpm readings after the run, we can be assured TQ will be correct as well. The numbers may have gone slightly higher if we did more runs, allowing the trans fluid/oil to thin out a little, but other than that...This is the purpose of dyno testing in the first place, to see how your setup is performing, and where changes need to be made. If I remember, Jeff is using a myriad of parts from different people and cars (inj pump and turbo/manifold, injectors) and to expect this setup to perform optimally with no tuning is a stretch. This is my guess as to why the numbers are lower than normal/expected if they are in fact so.

subsonic · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:55:05 pm »

Quote from: "dubmekanik"

This is my guess as to why the numbers are lower than normal/expected if they are in fact so.

Nope, those are great numbers for an engine that was originally a naturaly aspirated unit. It is all about the setup and what you want out of it. Big TQ means bigger boost and fuel down low which puts the stock rods into the danger zone. I'm sure that the engine could be adjusted either way for an increase, more tq or more hp, or pehaps a bit more of both. If it will hold together, you could run up the rpms and the fuel to 6k. Looked like it was still climbing and had not started to flat line yet. Either way, those are upper end stock tdi numbers you are putting out with an old 1.6 mechanical diesel. Walk tall man

dubmekanik · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2009, 06:35:31 pm »

Anybody have an idea what's going on between 2500 and 3k? It may have been the turbo building boost when the dyno was being held steady at wot before the ramp up of the run (only a sec. or two). Jeff insisted that he operate the throttle so there are a few things that are different like the flat vert line at the end (no biggie) and maybe that small hump at the beginning. Does anyone have any dyno graphs with something comparable?

Op-Ivy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:43:08 pm »

I would suspect that it would have something to do with the dynamic or static timing.

dubmekanik · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2009, 09:36:31 pm »

Maybe Jeff can chime in and let us know what it's set at?

AudiVWguy · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2009, 10:25:27 pm »

I had a conversation with Giles and the timing was a little low. I also found that this pump draws in fuel so well now that it exposed some air coming in the fuel line (clear hose). Which I'm sure was happening at the dyno run. I have now set the timing to .95.

subsonic · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2009, 06:26:49 am »

Lift pump? If you do, it will effect the timing a bit I think. Call Giles and ask him about it.

AudiVWguy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2009, 08:56:22 pm »

I was running a lift pump on the previous set up.When I install an internal pressure gauge, I saw about a 4 psi increase across the board. Giles set up needs nothing. The air in the lines was causing all kinds of havoc. New lines should be standard with a new pump.

dubmekanik · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:25:35 pm »

Not sure if this applies, but I am used to seeing air bubbles on perfectly running VW diesels through the clear feed line. I think I remember someone saying it had to do with the filter? I thought it was strange, but they assured me it didn't make much difference, as the pressure is after the pump.

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