84 rabbit will not idle.

[ashleyroe]

just got an update from kevin at work at the dealership...

pump timing is off.
didn't say how much or anything else, so we shall see!

[ashleyroe]

ALGAE in the fuel tank  :shock:

[ashleyroe]

cleaned out the tank. put all new fresh diesel in.

idle issue was solved with adjustment to the pump's timing, still has power issues.

fixed the alternator light issue, the oil light issue too.

everything is in working order now

starts up and runs on it's own.

just some more tweaking.

[ashleyroe]

new lines, shift linkage, and injectors.

[8v-of-fury]

Now these are some smokin' Women :P  Central High-school in Washington D.C 1927

[theman53]

idle issue was solved with adjustment to the pump's timing, still has power issues       quote

It is a 1.6l n/a right? you will probably always have power issues  :lol: .

[ashleyroe]

It is a 1.6l n/a right? you will probably always have power issues  :lol: .

aww  :oops:  

haha, no i mean throttle is still messed up, the pedal is still almost at the floor. and there's little pedal travel.

[theman53]

post pics... of you and the pump  :lol:
With as many pump gurus are around here they will definately be able to help. I would guess that you might need to take arm off and relocate it. I have done that and the only suggestion I have is take pics so you at least know where you can go back to. Oh and try to hold onto the springs, they are sometimes nasty little guys to get back on correctly.

[ashleyroe]

they let it run in the lot for 45 mins today...

i got a call that it was smoking ALOT, of blue smoke.

tech says's it's coolant, mayeb the headgasket.

i don't believe it is cause we just put that new one in perfect.

they took it off the bucket of new fuel and they are running it off the tank of old gross fuel right now. i think it's all the crap in the tank burning off.

any opinions?

[jtanguay]

they let it run in the lot for 45 mins today...

i got a call that it was smoking ALOT, of blue smoke.

tech says's it's coolant, mayeb the headgasket.

i don't believe it is cause we just put that new one in perfect.

they took it off the bucket of new fuel and they are running it off the tank of old gross fuel right now. i think it's all the crap in the tank burning off.

any opinions?

Blue smoke is not normal and you do not want to be driving behind a truck that produces it. Blue smoke occurs when oil is entering the combustion chamber and is burning along with the fuel. Blue smoke usual indicates a condition which should be corrected a.s.a.p. Blue smoke also smells like oil burning. Possible causes include valve seals or cracked piston rings.

taken from the FAQ here

i doubt its the headgasket.  its possible that the engine's timing is still off, and its blue-white smoke.  my old '86 jetta with mech lifters did this on cold startup.  there wasn't too much of it though.  i would make sure that the engine is getting up to temperature, otherwise the swirl chambers won't be hot enough.   when i installed a 160F t-stat in my 1.6TD, it would smoke quite a bit more than when i installed the 192F t-stat.

[ashleyroe]

engine's timing is perfect. it's been perfect since we did it in the garage.

just the pump was off. i think it was at liek .38 or something ridiculous.
it's set to .93 now.

it's constant smoke, and alot.

the smoking got worse the longer it ran.
i haven't seen it yet but they are finishing it up and i'm just gonna drive it.

we thought maybe it was coolant in the exhaust from when the HG blew the first time, but it would have all burned off by now.

they'ev been driving it and said it runs great and idles perfect. so who knows what's up with it.

[theman53]

If coolant got into the exhaust it will take a long time to burn it out of the muffler. Blue smoke is sometimes oil burning or really rich condition. If it runs good and idles well I would just run the crap out of it and see what happens. If something major is wrong like a headgasket then it will show up either way.
Old fuel could act very badly as well. You should get rid of that and run some good into it. Keep a couple fuel filters and replace them after a tank or 3 and that should clear it up. Maybe an injector has some of the algea junk in it and sticking open a little? Seafoam and diesel purge can help as well as ATF.

[ashleyroe]

well, i saw the car run today in person.

there's not much smoke at all. i'm not sure what they were talking about.
on rev's it pumps out a cloud of blackish dark grey smoke.

the idle bounces until the car warms up and then idles fine.

it also has a fairly hard time starting.

more clues for this mistery.

should i just put in a new IP?

[ashleyroe]

If coolant got into the exhaust it will take a long time to burn it out of the muffler. Blue smoke is sometimes oil burning or really rich condition. If it runs good and idles well I would just run the crap out of it and see what happens. If something major is wrong like a headgasket then it will show up either way.
Old fuel could act very badly as well. You should get rid of that and run some good into it. Keep a couple fuel filters and replace them after a tank or 3 and that should clear it up. Maybe an injector has some of the algea junk in it and sticking open a little? Seafoam and diesel purge can help as well as ATF.

yeah i am just gonna drive it.
i think it's all teh bad fuel, but their pump to take teh fuel out at the dealer is broken.

thanks for the help.

i need to buy some more fuel filters  :roll:

[theman53]

well, i saw the car run today in person.

there's not much smoke at all. i'm not sure what they were talking about.
on rev's it pumps out a cloud of blackish dark grey smoke.

the idle bounces until the car warms up and then idles fine.

it also has a fairly hard time starting.

more clues for this mistery.

should i just put in a new IP?

this sounds like every NA that I have had. I would run it as long as I could and then see MR.Giles in the vendor forum for an IP if you ever need it. The more you run this the better it should get. I would run some sort of cleaner in the fuel filter when you change it and some in the tank as well until things get worked out.