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Reply #45December 19, 2008, 03:05:57 am

dave friday

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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2008, 03:05:57 am »
Yes it does lift off,just knock the old seal out and the new one back in!,i replaced the gasket on mine,but i guess you could re-use the old one with a light smeer of gasket goo.
good luck.
1992 1600 td syncro camper

Reply #46December 19, 2008, 03:41:06 am

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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2008, 03:41:06 am »
Quote from: "dave friday"
Yes it does lift off,just knock the old seal out and the new one back in!,i replaced the gasket on mine,but i guess you could re-use the old one with a light smeer of gasket goo.
good luck.


Thanks for the info Dave

Reply #47December 21, 2008, 12:50:37 pm

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« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2008, 12:50:37 pm »
Where did you get the crank sprocket from?? Thinking that I should just replace this next timing belt change.

Reply #48December 21, 2008, 03:48:39 pm

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Quote from: "klr4evr"
Where did you get the crank sprocket from?? Thinking that I should just replace this next timing belt change.


I bought it from

www.brickwerks.co.uk

Along with a new bolt  :D

I believe they are sponors on here?

Came within a week iirc at a good price too

Reply #49December 21, 2008, 07:17:16 pm

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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2008, 07:17:16 pm »
I did a pin/stud repair a few years ago, and it's holding well.  The biggest concern that was raised to me that I thought was valid was that punching holes in the end of the crank nose might lead to weakening it.

After a few years, no problems yet.  The car doesn't owe me anything though, so I'm curiously waiting to see how long it holds for.

Doing the repair your way is certainly painstaking, glad to see you did it right the first time.  If you're that skilled with a dremel I would have thought you'd go for the tdi pulley style and never have to worry about it again.

Reply #50December 22, 2008, 02:57:00 am

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« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2008, 02:57:00 am »
vwt4, have a look on www.brick-yard.co.uk and/or www.club 80-90.
1992 1600 td syncro camper

Reply #51December 28, 2008, 02:25:47 pm

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« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2008, 02:25:47 pm »
Quote from: "commuter boy"
I did a pin/stud repair a few years ago, and it's holding well.  The biggest concern that was raised to me that I thought was valid was that punching holes in the end of the crank nose might lead to weakening it.

After a few years, no problems yet.  The car doesn't owe me anything though, so I'm curiously waiting to see how long it holds for.

Doing the repair your way is certainly painstaking, glad to see you did it right the first time.  If you're that skilled with a dremel I would have thought you'd go for the tdi pulley style and never have to worry about it again.


Glad to hear your pin/stud repair has held up well. if its lasted a few years, odds are that it will stay for good.

Regarding the TDi pulley; is it really that reliable?
It looks a better design than the original keyway one...however it seemed at the time like it would be more work to do.
With hindsight, that might not have been the case!!

Reply #52December 30, 2008, 06:56:48 pm

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« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2008, 06:56:48 pm »
Quote from: "vwt4"
Quote from: "commuter boy"
I did a pin/stud repair a few years ago, and it's holding well.  The biggest concern that was raised to me that I thought was valid was that punching holes in the end of the crank nose might lead to weakening it.

After a few years, no problems yet.  The car doesn't owe me anything though, so I'm curiously waiting to see how long it holds for.

Doing the repair your way is certainly painstaking, glad to see you did it right the first time.  If you're that skilled with a dremel I would have thought you'd go for the tdi pulley style and never have to worry about it again.


Glad to hear your pin/stud repair has held up well. if its lasted a few years, odds are that it will stay for good.

Regarding the TDi pulley; is it really that reliable?
It looks a better design than the original keyway one...however it seemed at the time like it would be more work to do.
With hindsight, that might not have been the case!!


the TDI pulley coupled with the clutched alternator pulley make the crank nose problems a thing of the past.  the problem is that the crank sprocket needs to go on very tight.  if you can loosely put it on, then its not snug enough.  you should need to hammer it on with a mallet.  if there is any play, it will eventually work itself loose, slowly but surely.  it might take up to 300,000km... but it will happen.

my TDI 1Z with about 100,000km or so had a pretty loose crank nose that had to be repaired.  just goes to show that the TDI fix isn't going to remedy the problem 100%

personally though, i would like to see a 12 point crank nose... that thing isn't going to move a mm let alone slip!!!  :lol: that thing would be 100% permanent.

so proper preparation, installation, etc. is a big part of the successful fixing of the crank nose.

i would imagine that the 4 pins will indeed save your motor, but they must be very tight. there can be no play in them to allow the crank bolt to work its way out.  and then the pins themselves could potentially damage the crank nose as well, furthering the destruction.


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