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November 22, 2008, 09:08:01 am

Torchd

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200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
« on: November 22, 2008, 09:08:01 am »
Hey guys!

I have 210mm Act stage three race spec clutch kit but i dont have the 210mm flywheel. Would it be possible to use the 200mm flywheel? like geting it machined or sumthing?

Will i have to get it balanced?

Appreciate the help.

Reply #1November 22, 2008, 10:32:25 am

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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2008, 10:32:25 am »
theoretically if you remove the same amount all the way around, it should stay balanced...


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Reply #2November 22, 2008, 11:25:55 am

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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2008, 11:25:55 am »
What do you have done to the motor? We need more info.

Reply #3November 22, 2008, 11:36:27 am

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2008, 11:36:27 am »
IIRC the ACT clutch disks are 200mm. Measure it. If its 200mm then you will have no problem.

Reply #4November 22, 2008, 10:40:15 pm

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200mm flywheel on 210mm clutch disc..Possible?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2008, 10:40:15 pm »
Been awhile since I did a clutch,..
 The 210mm flywheels have 9 bolts right?
 It seems like the 200mm flywheel uses 6 bolts to hold it to the pressure plate.
 It also seems like the 200mm disc fit pretty tight in the flywheel,... close to the bolts,... a 210 clutch disc might cut the bolts.
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Reply #5November 23, 2008, 04:34:35 pm

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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 04:34:35 pm »
could you use a 210mm flywheel on our engines?

Reply #6November 23, 2008, 07:28:57 pm

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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 07:28:57 pm »
yes. you will need a 210mm pressure plate too though. dont do it unless you are applying some serious power though.

Reply #7November 24, 2008, 12:23:14 am

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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 12:23:14 am »
The timing marks on some of the gasser flywheels might not be in the right place for diesels.
Tornado red, '91 Golf 4 door, with M-TDI 12mm pump, south bend clutch, VNT-15 turbo, 02A trany
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Reply #8November 24, 2008, 07:03:42 am

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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 07:03:42 am »
Quote from: "fatmobile"
The timing marks on some of the gasser flywheels might not be in the right place for diesels.



This is true...

Yes you can use a 210mm flywheel/pressure plate combo on our engines. Several people including myself are running the 210mm combo.

I'm running a Clutchnet 8 puck ceramic disk with a SACHS Super Clutch pressure plate and a lightened flywheel.
I can slip it @ freeway speeds under heavy boost so I'll be changing it to a 6 puck set up like 53 willys is running.
dan

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Reply #9November 24, 2008, 05:46:11 pm

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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 05:46:11 pm »
How does the Sachs Super pressure plate compare to the clutchnet red pressure plate?
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Reply #10November 24, 2008, 06:07:27 pm

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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 06:07:27 pm »
I don't think it's as good and I'll be getting The Red when its time for a replacement.

For all I know it's just paint  :x
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Reply #11November 24, 2008, 06:14:25 pm

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2008, 06:14:25 pm »
Hopefully the clutchnet cover has a relocated pivot for the heat treated diaphragm. :?:
Usually that is all that is done to improve clamp force.

Have you tried a 4 puck? not as traffic friendly as the 6 tho.
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Reply #12November 24, 2008, 06:17:16 pm

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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 06:17:16 pm »
Quote from: "EcoMod"
Hopefully the clutchnet cover has a relocated pivot for the heat treated diaphragm. :?:
Usually that is all that is done to improve clamp force.

Have you tried a 4 puck? not as traffic friendly as the 6 tho.


No I wont be trying the 4 puck, I don't believe they make it with a sprung hub.

The 6 puck will hold more then we can produce I'm betting. The 8 puck I have now does pretty dang good once it's warmed up.
dan

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Reply #13November 24, 2008, 07:00:25 pm

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 07:00:25 pm »
[/quote]

No I wont be trying the 4 puck, I don't believe they make it with a sprung hub.

The 6 puck will hold more then we can produce I'm betting. The 8 puck I have now does pretty dang good once it's warmed up.[/quote]

There is a 3-4 puck sprung hub....maybe not clutchnet though.  I have run so many different types of clutches over the years.....

Tried double diaphrams with stock discs, stock pressure plates with 3 pucks even was a dealer for Competition clutch and clutchmaster....I hate the stiff PPlates, they tear up thrust bearings...and my L knee
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Reply #14November 24, 2008, 07:29:27 pm

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 07:29:27 pm »
Quote from: "EcoMod"
There is a 3-4 puck sprung hub....maybe not clutchnet though.  I have run so many different types of clutches over the years.....


It looks as if clutchnet has both 3 and 4 puck sprung discs.

http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php?productid=16138&cat=0&page=1

http://www.clutchnet.com/product.php?productid=17159&cat=0&page=1

Quote from: "EcoMod"
Tried double diaphrams with stock discs, stock pressure plates with 3 pucks even was a dealer for Competition clutch and clutchmaster....I hate the stiff PPlates, they tear up thrust bearings...and my L knee


What sort of pressure plates do you prefer?  I know the 16v PP is supposed to be stiffer than the 8v but most people claim there's virtually no difference in pedal stiffness.
Cody

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