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November 04, 2008, 01:44:24 pm

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« on: November 04, 2008, 01:44:24 pm »
Is everybody using the regular oil pan bolts when installing a windage tray?  It's not terribly thick, but I'm sure it will not compress as much as the OE gasket.

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Reply #1November 04, 2008, 02:07:18 pm

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 02:07:18 pm »
Stock bolts will do fine.
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Reply #2November 04, 2008, 03:58:18 pm

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 03:58:18 pm »
Ok as clever as I think I am I've never seen a 'windage tray'  [AFAIK :shock: ]  Anyone with a picture :?:  :mrgreen:
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Reply #3November 04, 2008, 04:36:27 pm

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Reply #4November 04, 2008, 05:35:18 pm

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2008, 05:35:18 pm »
Quote from: "TurboJ"


Thanks for the  pic TurboJ
So what is it, a DALEK?
More importantly do Quantum's need them :?
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Reply #5November 04, 2008, 05:45:06 pm

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 05:45:06 pm »
It's basically just a baffle to prevent the oil from slopping around all over the place in hard cornering/accereration/braking situations to help prevent oil starvation.
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Reply #6November 04, 2008, 08:26:14 pm

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 08:26:14 pm »
also helps prevent the oil from getting whipped around the crank and foaming up... but thats only at high rpm  :wink:


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Reply #7November 05, 2008, 01:24:57 am

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 01:24:57 am »
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It will fit the quantum pan if a small section is cut out of it.  Not exactly necessary, but possibly helpful.  I like the integral rubber gasket.

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Ah so it's windage as in meanderage :shock:
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Reply #8November 05, 2008, 05:16:06 am

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 05:16:06 am »
I actually bought it because it was $30.  IIRC, that was about $15 more than the reusable rubber gasket.  Hopefully someday I'll need the "tray" part.  Right now, I just have a leaky gasket.
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Reply #9November 05, 2008, 05:47:25 am

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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 05:47:25 am »
I've heard that there's a "mist" of oil hovering around in the bottom, and the windage tray helps eliminate it by catching the oil slinging off of rotating parts and making it drip into the oil pan.  This reduces the mist of oil the crankshaft has to rotate through, helping lessen any drag caused by the mist. True/false?  Meh, the `trays are cheap these days so one might as well use it instead of cork.

Any longitudinal application will require the small section to be cut out.  The section to cut out is the area where the subframe goes under the oil pan (without the cutout the `tray doesn't sit flat with the oil pan's gasket surface).  If you have a special oil pan, there's more to cut out  8)

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Reply #10November 05, 2008, 07:53:57 am

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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 07:53:57 am »
Quote from: "VW Fox"
I've heard that there's a "mist" of oil hovering around in the bottom, and the windage tray helps eliminate it by catching the oil slinging off of rotating parts and making it drip into the oil pan.  This reduces the mist of oil the crankshaft has to rotate through, helping lessen any drag caused by the mist. True/false?  Meh, the `trays are cheap these days so one might as well use it instead of cork.

Any longitudinal application will require the small section to be cut out.  The section to cut out is the area where the subframe goes under the oil pan (without the cutout the `tray doesn't sit flat with the oil pan's gasket surface).  If you have a special oil pan, there's more to cut out  8)




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Reply #11November 05, 2008, 08:07:43 am

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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 08:07:43 am »
X2 more info on that KILLER pan!!! 8)

Reply #12November 05, 2008, 10:08:35 am

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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 10:08:35 am »
windage tray's have been proven on the dyno to give a couple HP in high perf apps.  :D

now translate that to a 70hp diesel.. and you'll get 1hp if your lucky  :lol: but i too like the re-useable rubber gasket part, and the not starving my motor while i run through a corner real fast.


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Reply #13November 05, 2008, 10:11:57 am

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 10:11:57 am »
Quote from: "jtanguay"
windage tray's have been proven on the dyno to give a couple HP in high perf apps.  :D

now translate that to a 70hp diesel.. and you'll get 1hp if your lucky  :lol: but i too like the re-useable rubber gasket part, and the not starving my motor while i run through a corner real fast.


I agree, I didn't get mine because it had a windage tray built in but for the rubber gasket instead.
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Reply #14November 06, 2008, 06:43:59 am

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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2008, 06:43:59 am »
Quote from: "zukgod1"
Quote from: "VW Fox"
I've heard that there's a "mist" of oil hovering around in the bottom, and the windage tray helps eliminate it by catching the oil slinging off of rotating parts and making it drip into the oil pan.  This reduces the mist of oil the crankshaft has to rotate through, helping lessen any drag caused by the mist. True/false?  Meh, the `trays are cheap these days so one might as well use it instead of cork.

Any longitudinal application will require the small section to be cut out.  The section to cut out is the area where the subframe goes under the oil pan (without the cutout the `tray doesn't sit flat with the oil pan's gasket surface).  If you have a special oil pan, there's more to cut out  8)




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