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Anyone heel-and-toe anymore ??
by
Vincent Waldon
on 28 Sep, 2008 20:45
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Now that we know enough about these diesels to make 'em scoot I miss some of the driving finesse that should come with it.
Specifically: I've not ever really been able to
heel-and-toe reliably in an MK1/2/3 because of the way the pedal cluster sits. Piece-o-cake in a Beetle !
My guess is that a spacer on the gas or brake pedal would help... anyone ever sort it out ??
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#1
by
FoXBoXRaCiNG
on 29 Sep, 2008 00:22
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Not too often you here of the old skool driving ways! Something I still do, was taught to drive, on a standard, by a racer at Race City (RIP)! She taught me the heel&toe on the ol Mazda GLC wagon (RWD), scared the shat outta me when I first ever drifted a corner :wink:
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#2
by
Op-Ivy
on 29 Sep, 2008 00:38
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I don't heel-toe necessarily, but I do match my rpm when down shifting. I just let off the brake and blip the throttle.
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#3
by
Patrick
on 29 Sep, 2008 03:04
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Never tried it in a Jetta. Used to do it all the time in a V6 5 speed Pontiac Astre I built (That's a LOT of years ago!) Have to see if it's possible in the Jetta. My right foot will twist around at a pretty good angle..... :lol:
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#4
by
blkboostedtruck
on 29 Sep, 2008 03:45
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I used to do it in my type 3 a lot! when my idle was off!
but is difficult in MK's unless the brake pedal works at a lower position!
but i have stayed away from that practice because of the instant brake light that comes on! the older master cylinders that were used in early vw's had a pressure switch and only came on with some pressure was applied!
Duane
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#5
by
saurkraut
on 29 Sep, 2008 06:23
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I have EEE width feet, so I brake with the left side of my right foot, and blip the throttle with the right side.
Its kind of a push and pivot. Works good.
I do it all the time.
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#6
by
TedV
on 29 Sep, 2008 09:01
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Story from Randy Pobst who started racing with the Mk1 Rabbit Cup cars. He would bend the gas pedal to the left to make heal-toe easier. In 85 they switched to the Mk2 Golf. He picked the Golf, soon to be racer up at the port at night. Drove a block away, reached down to bend the pedal to the left. Doing so he heard a SNAP. Turns out Mk2's use a plastic pedal :shock: he had to walk back to the guard, ask him for another pedal and a band aid. Plastic can be sharp.
:lol:
Sometimes I left foot brake when I autocross
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#7
by
burn_your_money
on 29 Sep, 2008 20:02
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I do as op-Ivy and RPM match. I've tried heel and toe but haven't ever successfully done it. My brakes come in too early so I can't hit the throttle.
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#8
by
Vincent Waldon
on 29 Sep, 2008 20:14
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Man you haven't lived till you're roaring down a winding mountain road in a 1969 VW van on road crush, rear end drifting out, heel-and-toeing as the apex tightens...
... passengers screaming.... :lol:
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#9
by
1slowvw
on 30 Sep, 2008 21:10
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I'm a big fan of rev matching, picked it up as a habit while dirtbiking when I was real young, and just transfered over to my driving everything else.
1SlowVW
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#10
by
vanbcguy
on 30 Sep, 2008 22:51
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My 2nd gear synchro is kinda nasty so rev matching is almost a requirement, at least when it's cold. I've never managed to figure out a way to jam my foot in there to heel and toe it though - not much room!
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#11
by
Baxter
on 01 Oct, 2008 15:24
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Double de clutch anyone?
i always have a throttle blip between gears, I also could never heal and toe to I was a left side right side kinda driver, same scenario just done different.
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#12
by
lord_verminaard
on 07 Oct, 2008 13:10
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Ya, I've also had problems with it in most of the VW's I've owned. The best part about my Camaro was the pedal arrangement. I also had some nice aluminum pedals made that made it easier. I have these nice pedals in my Scirocco:
http://store.cdoc.com/detail.asp?id=13721&str=2000-0174&name=Pedal+Sets%2C+Dead+Pedals+and+Footrests#They are the nicest I have ever stepped on, but the brakes do not engage high enough and I cannot swing my foot around to the accel pedal. The Corrado isn't as bad, I suspect with proper pedals I should be fine with it. In the meantime, I still RPM match downshifting most of the time, just not while braking.
Brendan
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#13
by
smoken u
on 07 Oct, 2008 17:27
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I double clutch most of the time, and heel toe occasionally, but like everyone says its not easy in the MK II, although I do brake boost very often while going around corners, find it makes it spool faster. :twisted:
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#14
by
Vincent Waldon
on 07 Oct, 2008 20:54
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Great discussion guys... much appreciated.
Here's
something to put you in the mood.
Here's a pretty good tutorial from a pretty good
car mag .