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September 23, 2008, 06:58:31 pm

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« on: September 23, 2008, 06:58:31 pm »
quick question... while browsing through princess auto i found an inline 'filter' that filters out oil & water... now it's not very big and says that it does reduce pressure, but would this not be a good idea to use? i would imagine that a little pressure decrease would be okay, but too much would cause some issues.

anyone else have any input?  i'm looking to get this done on my TDI, and keep the EGR the way it is (for now...) but not have the intake system get all oiled up.


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Reply #1September 24, 2008, 04:23:03 pm

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 04:23:03 pm »
I'd like to find a better solution for the CCV system on the TDI engines as well. I had a Old Navy CCV for a while, but it was the single outlet/ALH style unit and I really should have the double unit for the 1z/AHU style block.  There was one made, but it doesn't exist any longer from what I can tell.  
Anything has to be better than the stock, piece of junk elephant hose and I do not prefer to vent to the atmosphere. And NO Total Seals are not the answer :).

I'm not sure about what you are suggesting. I would be careful of anything that would reduce pressure and thus increase it on the crankcase side of the motor. I suppose it depends on "how much" pressure. Also, looking at the motor itself. Where should we be concerned about more pressure coming from? Def. the block.  However, I can tell you that I am starting with a old NA 1.6 crank block/CCV vent that bolts where the elephant hose lower tube does and I'm working from there to figure out what to replace the stock CCV puck with.  Ideas would be great. We've bounced this around before I think too.

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Reply #2September 24, 2008, 08:45:01 pm

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 08:45:01 pm »
Wrll, mine is big with ugly welds, but...




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Reply #3September 25, 2008, 01:58:44 pm

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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 01:58:44 pm »
Jim,

Looks like it prob does the job!


There has to be options out there :) I'm going to investigate as well.

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Reply #4October 02, 2008, 05:17:53 am

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2008, 05:17:53 am »
Quote from: "RabbitGTDguy"
Jim,

Looks like it prob does the job!


There has to be options out there :) I'm going to investigate as well.

Joe


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Reply #5October 02, 2008, 03:46:29 pm

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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2008, 03:46:29 pm »
Well, I'm actually working on a variation of the KCTDI mod found on TDICLUB for the 1z/AHU engine. The main difference being the fact that the KC mod is for use on the ALH motor which doesn't have the old style "crankcase" vent as well as the puck up north on the block.
It is simple, functional and can be hidden quite easily. It also retains the stock routing system for the most part and doesn't require any venting to the atmosphere...and its far cheaper than the Provent and other options out there.

Essentially, I'm installing this weekend and will provide pics but I'll be elminating the stock 1z/AHU elephant hose. For the crankcase vent, I'll be using an older 1.6 NA crankcase block vent that I have which will replace the elephant hose simply, the one i have has a outlet on the plate itself. Of course, one could always be added to a stock blockoff plate as well.
From there, route reinforced clear hose to the stock puck CCV inlet and then the outlet will be vented to a Agricultural filter with the additional of a stainless scrubber inside. I may add a drain to the bottom of the filter setup. From there of course, the outlet of the Ag filter would be routed to the stock intake tube location.

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Reply #6October 15, 2008, 07:01:10 pm

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2008, 07:01:10 pm »
Here is the variation of the KCTDI mod I'm using right now. Currently installing on the motor. I have to take more pics.

I'm using reinforced high pressure hose
An Agricultural filter
Stainless steel scrubbing pad
a crankcase vent plate (from 1.6 NA engine)
various connections.

In doing so, I'll have an efficient CCV system that is not venting to the atmosphere but is keeping anything in the intake tract nice and clear!
Some pics...


Here it is sitting on the other mTDI motor I'm building for the b3...fits perfectly on the block (1z/AHU....ALH = no crankcase vent on block)



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Reply #7October 15, 2008, 07:11:09 pm

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2008, 07:11:09 pm »
where you get that Joe?
i need to do something with mine it leaks oil at the valve cover and out the puck!
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Reply #8October 15, 2008, 07:21:08 pm

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2008, 07:21:08 pm »
One of the old IDI NA blocks I had used that crankcase vent. Many just have a block off plate. I remember seeing a Autobahn crankcase vent accessory kit on the vortex for diesels not to long ago. Apparently my engine might have had this and I've found them on earlier NA blocks as well (with the diaphrapm vac pumps). I've seen a few....should see if I have a few more.

Wouldn't be hard to add a fitting to a block off plate either.

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Reply #9October 15, 2008, 07:29:17 pm

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2008, 07:29:17 pm »
the CCV kit thats in the 1st. picture where you get it?
Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
'66 variant 1500S
'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
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+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #10October 16, 2008, 03:41:59 am

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2008, 03:41:59 am »
Duane,

I made it from the parts listed in the thread there...

Agricultural filter
Stainless scrubber
various fittings
high pressure reinforced hose...


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Reply #11October 16, 2008, 08:59:38 am

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2008, 08:59:38 am »
Quote from: "RabbitGTDguy"
Duane,

I made it from the parts listed in the thread there...

Agricultural filter
Stainless scrubber
various fittings
high pressure reinforced hose...


Joe



daaa if i only had a brain! and i was thinking that was a kit that came in a box :roll: i'm bad so basically all hardware store stuff?
Duane
injector rebuilds call  414-840-1395 for faster service not on line much!
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'81 2dr n/a 1.6 diesel rabbit 8"lift 260K R.I.P.
'81 caddy gas 1.8 turbo/stroker W/N.O.S.
'81 caddy 1.9 turbo diesel
'82 caddy gas 1.8 G60
 3 jettas '82' '04 '14TDI
+1 rabbit,03 HD sc.eag. duece,46,&5

Reply #12October 16, 2008, 12:39:51 pm

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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2008, 12:39:51 pm »
yes sir.... :) and should work VERY well considering....

Why spend a couple hundred when you can have functional and good ok looks for under 30.00?

:)

Joe
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