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September 10, 2008, 02:38:37 pm

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« on: September 10, 2008, 02:38:37 pm »
I haven't even looked at the fuse panel yet.

After my rering my horns don't work.

Silly me, I didn't know the horns were hooked up to the rings  :?

Anyway, is there a relay for these baby's?
I'm going to have to start crawling around under there but would like a good starting place.

Neither one of the 2 are working which leads me to a fuse or relay problem.

Suggestions before I dig in?
dan

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Reply #1September 10, 2008, 05:23:17 pm

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 05:23:17 pm »
check fuse first
if its not that then check the wiring out of the horn connector... ie: loose connector or bad wire, or the contacts on the horn button themself corroded?

i agree i dont think its the horns themselves because both stopped working same time. you can test by putting 12v to them.

Reply #2September 10, 2008, 06:38:01 pm

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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 06:38:01 pm »
There is a relay.

How do you know both stopped working at the same time? You might have only had 1 working and jsut assumed both were.
Tyler

Reply #3September 10, 2008, 10:27:39 pm

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 10:27:39 pm »
On my Rabbit GTI, the horn doesn't work,... but I can hear the relay click.
 Doesn't let the jerk cutting my off know I'm there,...
  but checking the relay is about that easy.
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Reply #4September 11, 2008, 11:08:17 am

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 11:08:17 am »
Quote from: "BlackTieTD"
check fuse first
if its not that then check the wiring out of the horn connector... ie: loose connector or bad wire, or the contacts on the horn button themself corroded?

i agree i dont think its the horns themselves because both stopped working same time. you can test by putting 12v to them.



The steering wheel is out of a 99 mk3. the switches both of them are good..
dan

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Reply #5September 11, 2008, 11:10:03 am

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 11:10:03 am »
Quote from: "burn_your_money"
There is a relay.

How do you know both stopped working at the same time? You might have only had 1 working and jsut assumed both were.



It's easy to tell when one vs two are working. Completely different sound.
They were both working up until I tore the engine apart. There is a connection over by the batt I think, maybe I had better check that out.
I'll get under it Saturday to get it figured out. Hope it's something easy easy..
dan

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Reply #6September 11, 2008, 11:21:55 am

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 11:21:55 am »
Quote from: "fatmobile"
On my Rabbit GTI, the horn doesn't work,... but I can hear the relay click.
 Doesn't let the jerk cutting my off know I'm there,...
  but checking the relay is about that easy.



I'm def, seriously def..

I can't hear crap, have to take my 14 yr old son for a ride when I think I'm hearing something "funny" :(
I have hearing devices but they only help a little.

I may be able to hear it if the car was off and my head was under the dash while the button was pushed.
dan

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Reply #7September 11, 2008, 08:02:41 pm

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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2008, 08:02:41 pm »
I bet your son is going to grow up and build some pretty sweet cars with all the training you are giving him.  8)

It has to be frustrating at times though.

Quote from: "zukgod1"

It's easy to tell when one vs two are working. Completely different sound.


I guess I've never had both horns working at the same time :lol:
Tyler

Reply #8September 17, 2008, 06:56:07 am

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 06:56:07 am »
Well here is what I have discovered thus far.

The horns are plugged in as required.

The relay seems to be clicking (my def ear can hear something).

Still no horn. I cant seem to find a blown fuse though.
Next step is to run a hot wire to the horns to make sure they are still working then I guess I'll go from there.
dan

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Reply #9September 17, 2008, 09:35:59 am

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 09:35:59 am »
If hearing is a problem, use a test light (works best around dusk) and check various points in the circuit to determine where you lose power.  One other thing to check is the ground.  I'm not sure on VW's, but on North American cars they ground through the horn mount, and I have had similar issues several times where rust causes enough resistance that the horn no longer works.
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Reply #10September 23, 2008, 12:44:52 pm

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2008, 12:44:52 pm »
Funny, I'm in the same boat with respect to the horns, all is in check but no horns, 12v applied and they work, no relay click though, is it a relay in the fuse panel?
My cat has A.D.D :(

Reply #11September 23, 2008, 01:37:52 pm

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 01:37:52 pm »
ya the relay is in the fuse panel under the dash on the drivers side.

I still haven't dug into min anymore. I'm just busy as heck right now..
Have to yell and wave a finger right now.
dan

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Reply #12September 23, 2008, 06:40:26 pm

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 06:40:26 pm »
I haven't had mine working for a few months now, there are a couple of times I really wish I had it though :evil:
Tyler

Reply #13September 24, 2008, 09:28:01 am

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2008, 09:28:01 am »
just add the bumpersticker:

Horn broke, watch for finger

 works on mine :wink:  :lol:

Reply #14September 24, 2008, 09:38:46 am

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2008, 09:38:46 am »
There was twice this morning I need my damn horn...
Finger isn't loud enough.

One guy has burnt retinas though, shouldn't have pulled out in front of me.
dan

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