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April 10, 2008, 10:53:49 pm

Torchd

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« on: April 10, 2008, 10:53:49 pm »
My car blows black smoke like anythinggg!!! and it consumes diesel like mad!!

The problem only started like 3 weeks back eversince my brother has been running on the minimum fuel level needed to drive it!!

So i wana replace my nozzles now.... which ones are the best for performance and fuel consumption for a stock aaz in stock injector bodies..? or should i just stick with stock ones?

Reply #1April 11, 2008, 08:09:12 am

oldskool rich

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 08:09:12 am »
not convinced that nozzles are the problem but best mpg will probly be stock ones, best power will be merc ones, make sure you get them calabrated.


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Reply #2April 12, 2008, 12:04:13 am

Torchd

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« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2008, 12:04:13 am »
Seen!!

How are they calibrated??

People in my country are not to good with german cars and their components..  so i'll have to guide them..  so if u can kindly give me an idea?

Can i some how get my current nozzles adjusted, pressure tested or sumthing to fix the problem??  Is there any room for adjustment?

Cheers!!

Reply #3April 16, 2008, 10:57:40 am

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 10:57:40 am »
Torchd, sounds like IF the nozzles are the culprit (most likely there's more than one factor at play) they need to be cleaned and calibrated at the very least. You may just want to replace the injector nozzles, depending on how bad they are, and recalibration (of the nozzle opening pressure) is very important to proper injection.

You'll need to use a pressure tester (manometer) - generally speaking, the easiest way to do this is using a "pop-tester" or injector pressure tester, which includes a fuel reservoir, a crank (for manual application of pressure) and a manometer (pressure gauge) that is hooked up at an appropriate location and calibrated to ensure accurate reading. The injector attaches to an injection line fitting, and then you work the handle, checking the pressure and examining the spray pattern to determine the condition of the nozzle. You may need to clean or replace it, and then if the pressure is not in keeping with the manufacturer's specification, it needs to be adjusted to ensure accurate and precise fuel metering. Exactly how the pressure is adjusted varies from injector to injector - some use shims, others have different mechanisms. Yours may or may not be capable of adjusting the pressure. One way or another, you will definitely need access to a pressure tester if you want to verify correct opening pressures - depending on your location it may be easiest to simply order new nozzles and replace them if you are certain that the injector is the issue.

That being said, calibration is still critical to proper operation; but if you have bad nozzles and poor calibration compared to good nozzles and poor calibration - the latter is of course (marginally) better in terms of operation, emissions, and efficiency.

As far as the nozzles to go with - all other things being equal, there is something to be said for remaining stock in as many factors as possible. Stock nozzles are the best power / performance compromise, and you have the assurance that (if they're clean and working properly) you've got the spray pattern that Bosch / VW was using in their tests on the engine to ensure that fuel was atomized appropriately. Unless someone has tested a particular set of nozzles with the particular engine in question, you just don't have that assurance.

You can easily increase power and efficiency together by way of fuel pump modifications, or simply increasing boost, while maintaining OEM fuel spray patterns. I won't tell you that larger nozzles WILL cause a problem (They likely won't) but they may increase your fuel consumption and / or smoke at least in certain running ranges. Entirely your choice - I personally would stick with stock nozzles unless I were going to some fairly exotic extremes à la Dave from Passenger Performance's Franken-Motor.

Good luck!

Reply #4April 16, 2008, 11:42:19 pm

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 11:42:19 pm »
when I replaced my nozzles I got ones for a 6.2L GM V8.
mostly because they were $5 each.
they flow alot more, so I have backed off the timing a little.
they definitely allow for more power, and no noticeable difference in EGT or smoke.

but again, crazy nozzles are only really needed when you are going for stupid amounts of power.
83 Opel Kadett Diesel

Reply #5April 18, 2008, 12:17:58 am

Torchd

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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2008, 12:17:58 am »
BenjaminR

Thanks for such a long and informative write up!!

I agree with you at Bosch testing the stock nozzles and all!!

And yeha i have read the Franken-Motor thread...  maan one hell of a car!!  and i loved it like everyone else!!

I will get my nozzles checked this weekend.. if they are bad..  i'll have to order new ones.. which is kind of a problem!


Thanks Truckinwagen...  i guess i'll be stickin with stock ones..