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March 31, 2008, 01:59:15 pm

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Ive replaced the water pump on my "sig" and like a dummy i threw the old one out.Now im putting on belts and i notice that my waterpump pulley sticks out a pinch more then the crank pulley?I know theres two different styles of hubs,but mine pulley fits,but it seems like it comes out to far.I compared the old to new and they looked the same,i need help.I could shimm the back with some washers but in dont wanna :?
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Reply #1March 31, 2008, 02:44:00 pm

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2008, 02:44:00 pm »
It was identified as a replacement for quite a few other vehicles(1.9td,1.6 gasser,1.6td1.6na,tdi 1z,and others)Im wondering if the extra length is to accomidate other vehicles?It was a cheapy :oops:
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Reply #2March 31, 2008, 02:48:05 pm

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 02:48:05 pm »
VW has at least 5 different styles of water pump pulley configurations for their 8V engines.
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Reply #3March 31, 2008, 03:24:33 pm

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 03:24:33 pm »
thanks burn!i dont know why this guy sells them like this.Its very misleading.I guess im gonna shim the pulley then
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Reply #4March 31, 2008, 09:26:03 pm

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 09:26:03 pm »
try flipping the WP pulley around. It could have an offset
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Reply #5April 01, 2008, 03:06:32 am

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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 03:06:32 am »
Ive tried flipping it,Its alot further out of line with the crank when i do it.I have it "hugging" the lower belt cover.I did eliminate the A/C!Is this the reason?
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Reply #6April 01, 2008, 08:53:49 am

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 08:53:49 am »
If your alternator still lines up with the crank then it's not the issue (as far as deleting the AC goes) because you didn't change the crank pulley (I think there are only 2 styles of crank pulleys anyways)
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Reply #7April 01, 2008, 01:49:15 pm

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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 01:49:15 pm »
The ac compressor didnt have 2 pulleys for 2 diff belts?
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Reply #8April 01, 2008, 09:20:53 pm

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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2008, 09:20:53 pm »
I picture of the old setup perhaps?
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Reply #9April 01, 2008, 11:21:34 pm

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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2008, 11:21:34 pm »
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my waterpump pulley sticks out a pinch more then the crank pulley

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I could shimm the back with some washers

 If the pulley is sticking out too far, shims will only put it out there farther.
What is the last letter in the part number?
 If you set the pully face down, with the center on a flat surface, how far is the center of the groove where the belt rides from the surface?

 Thanks for posting this in the troubleshooting fora,.. instead of the IDI performance enhancements fora.
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Reply #10April 02, 2008, 03:17:51 am

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2008, 03:17:51 am »
sorry i meant the crank pulley sticks out a little further :oops: I will look at the offset today.Its gotta be"belt center" close to a 1/4" inch from the hub(offset).Your talking about how far its "cupped" out, right?
Cummins 4bta- 85 dodge prospector short bed
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1.6td in toyota pickup
10mm head ,t3 intercooled.

Reply #11April 03, 2008, 04:17:14 am

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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 04:17:14 am »

heres the old set up,alternator bracket with tensioner.The ac comp. runs the alternator.Do i need a double pulley?
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1.6td in toyota pickup
10mm head ,t3 intercooled.

Reply #12April 03, 2008, 05:03:49 am

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 05:03:49 am »
That's weird that you have AC and no PS.

So you deleted the AC but kept the same alternator or you bought the correct alternator?

Either way you don't need a double pulley
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Reply #13April 03, 2008, 02:08:11 pm

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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 02:08:11 pm »
I bought a mk1 alternator for no ac as well as the bracket
Cummins 4bta- 85 dodge prospector short bed
28 mpg!!and i can pull down a house!
1.6td in toyota pickup
10mm head ,t3 intercooled.