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March 23, 2008, 04:03:36 am

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« on: March 23, 2008, 04:03:36 am »
was seeing the french forum and see that the timing marks on the flyweel that they take for reference is this:


am i doing wrong?
i never timed my pump by this but by other mark that it has... :shock:
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Reply #1March 23, 2008, 04:23:54 am

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2008, 04:23:54 am »
I dont think that's the right mark but i could be wrong!

Reply #2March 23, 2008, 04:25:46 am

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 04:25:46 am »
because if its the wrong mark should be chaged the post as beeing a sticky...
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Reply #3March 23, 2008, 10:27:28 am

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 10:27:28 am »
Unfortunately there are several different marks, and then people scribe their own / use gasser flywheels etc etc.

Your first picture looks a bit wonky to me in that I've never ever seen a factory timing mark right next to a flywheel bolt.

The second picture is definitely the factory mark, properly aligned.  Both my current diesel flywheels have  the diamond shape *and* a line, but the same diamond shape for sure.

My opinion would be: if you can find a mark like the second picture then go for it..... the first one looks aftermarket-ish to me.
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Reply #4March 23, 2008, 11:08:21 am

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 11:08:21 am »
well,the first pic is what is in the french area in a diy for timing the pump...

maybe i will alert them :arrow:
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Reply #5March 23, 2008, 11:19:44 am

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 11:19:44 am »
if a person un bolted the fly wheel from the flex plate , and moved it one bolt over , would that not change the timing marks?

i can't remeber if the fly wheel and flex plate are indexed to each other .
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Reply #6March 23, 2008, 03:34:04 pm

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2008, 03:34:04 pm »
They are indexed to each other. There are pins that only allow the flywheel to bolt to the pressure plate one way. With that being said, using a different pressure plate could allow the flywheel to bolt on differently. I installed a new p-plate and the I had to scribe a new timing mark.
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Reply #7March 24, 2008, 05:31:25 am

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 05:31:25 am »
That first picture is (i'm pretty sure) the dynamic timing mark for a gasser motor. It appears that someone has used a gasser flywheel on a diesel

To the right of that mark (about 1/2 inch) I believe you will find a little round peen mark, that's the static timing mark..
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Reply #8March 24, 2008, 09:39:26 am

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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 09:39:26 am »
So is there a way to mark the flywheel for TDC before it is mounted to the engine?
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Reply #9March 24, 2008, 10:02:17 am

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 10:02:17 am »
The best way would be to have the cylinder head off and the transmission on. Use a dial gauge and find TDC and then punch TDC on the flywheel.
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Reply #10March 24, 2008, 10:40:40 am

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2008, 10:40:40 am »
I've snapped some pics with my phone showing in this order"

0 dot in white on:

gas flywheel

newer diesel flywheel (3 bolt)

older diesel flywheel (2 bolt)

all 0 dots in same place

and all 3 have the alignment pegs in the same place

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~mw105397/VW/pics/020_Flywheels/
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Reply #11March 24, 2008, 09:46:33 pm

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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 09:46:33 pm »
The first pic is from AAZ, at each time that I have make a timing on this engine, I white painted the mark.

Reply #12March 26, 2008, 11:18:37 am

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2008, 11:18:37 am »
so in picture Photo0021

is the TDC mark the punch mark to the right of the white dot?
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Reply #13March 26, 2008, 12:25:47 pm

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2008, 12:25:47 pm »
so when putting the gasser flywheel onto a diesel how do I know where to mark the tdc mark?

Reply #14March 26, 2008, 02:40:34 pm

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2008, 02:40:34 pm »


I'm pretty sure that I used this mark to time my last engine.... It runs fine.

I'll have to take the head off my spare engine and verify the marks. Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen that diamond looking thing
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