Author Topic: Injection! (Read 5107 times)

boosted_diesel_84 · « **on:** February 08, 2008, 07:04:47 pm »

what are my options for nozzles on a 85 1.6 TD? and where can i buy them? i purchased some GTD nozzles a while back, and went to install and found they were too big! like physically wont fit in my stock injector body. any ideas? thanks!

-Jack-

dillenger1 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2008, 06:13:03 am »

I thought the gtd nozzles were a direct replacement for the 1.6.I bought a set ,i havent got them yet,but was told they will be a direct replacement/upgrade!What doesnt fit?just to large?Are you putting them in NA injectors?

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2008, 07:56:06 am »

Can you tell us the part number on the side of the injector ??

DNO SD273 or DNO SD293 - stock injector nozzle
DNO SD276 - "GTD" injector nozzle

All of the DNO SD series should fit in the stock injector housing.... perhaps someone pulled a fast one on ya ??

dillenger1 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2008, 08:51:12 am »

This is the bosch number?Or is it a vw part #?

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2008, 09:32:19 am »

Quote from: "dillenger1"

This is the bosch number?Or is it a vw part #?

Bosch... but it's a nozzle designation number... there is probably an actual Bosch part number as well (0 434 250 138 for example is the standard turbo nozzle).

And of course, some of the nozzles are still available from VW, so there is probably a corresponding VW part number for some of them as well (068 130 211D is the standard turbo nozzle).

Don't have the Bosch and VW part numbers for the GTD nozzles... perhaps someone with ESI and a European ETKA will chip in.

smutts · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2008, 09:37:52 am »

The GTD nozzles Bosch number is "DNO SD 274", at least for the SD engined GTD of 1990 vintage. There is a site on the internet that quotes 276, but I think that might not be right. Good luck.

smutts · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2008, 09:47:50 am »

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200197276801&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123
Copy and paste. I wish they were this good a price my side of the pond. Dear moderators, just delete if this is a problem. Cheers. :wink:

dillenger1 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2008, 01:09:00 pm »

Those are the ones i bought,He's a pleasure to deal with.I was first thinking it was to good to be true,but its not.

boosted_diesel_84 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2008, 08:01:21 am »

ok i just checked my nozzles that are in yellow and red bosch boxes say the number DNOSD274 then brazil, i go to college for automotive and i had the diesel class instruction install them and pressure test. he tried, but said they would not fit in injector body, the injector body says 155 bar on it and were in my 1.6 td that ran fine and got 45-55mpg, so why wont they fit? thanks for any help!

-Jack-

blkboostedtruck · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2008, 08:41:57 am »

Quote from: "boosted_diesel_84"

ok i just checked my nozzles that are in yellow and red bosch boxes say the number DNOSD274 then brazil, i go to college for automotive and i had the diesel class instruction install them and pressure test. he tried, but said they would not fit in injector body, the injector body says 155 bar on it and were in my 1.6 td that ran fine and got 45-55mpg, so why wont they fit? thanks for any help!

-Jack-

thats odd they should fit? where did you get the nozzels from?
can you post any pics.?
do the nozzels look the same as your old one's?
injector bodies cleaned?
thanks Duane
or you could send them to me and i can look?
also i can poptest them for you?
i'm set up for that service now!

boosted_diesel_84 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:06:24 am »

i bought them from ebay (probably a bad idea) for around $60? i think, it was a while ago, if you notice in the pics there is like a clear glue all over the nozzle, i think maby to keep crap out until installed? the old injector was cleaned before the nozzles were installed, but i dont know if by some chance the glue? was still on it? the injectors are still at school, i will pick them up today and post pics. thanks for any help! sorry the pics are so big, i dont know how to size them down. heres the nozzles:

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boosted_diesel_84 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:12:42 am »

i just noticed something strange! i pulled them all out and compared them, the one on the right has a much bigger tip protruding than the rest, is this my problem? heres some pics

jtanguay · « **Reply #12 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:32:30 am »

if you can't push it down then i'd say it is a problem... the spring is what holds the pintle is it called? down

Vincent Waldon · « **Reply #13 on:** February 11, 2008, 10:41:39 am »

Nah, I think the gluey stuff just grabbed the needle when it was slightly extended.

I personally think you have been misinformed... if you have standard KCA injectors in your engine then just about any nozzle from the DNO SD family should fit... in particular, the 274s in your picture.

Not sure how he knew they wouldn't fit without removing the shipping glue and trying them ?

boosted_diesel_84 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 11, 2008, 07:21:10 pm »

ok, well i got the injectors tonight, checked them out, and sure enough, the nozzles are correct, my teacher assumed the glue coating was thinner that it actually was, hence him thinking it wouldnt fit. thanks for the help on this matter! i will start posting pics of my build soon.

-Jack-