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serpentine setup, no power steering, possible?
by
flapjack
on 28 Jan, 2008 11:19
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I've got the serpentine belt setup from a 1.9 td on my 1.6td
It has a vbelt for the water pump & power steering
If the power steering pump is removed, how do you tighted the vbelt?
Did any mk3 come from the factory without p.s.?
thanks
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#1
by
jtanguay
on 28 Jan, 2008 11:25
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i suppose you would need to find a car without P/S. or just install a junk p/s pump?
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#2
by
burn_your_money
on 28 Jan, 2008 11:25
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#3
by
flapjack
on 28 Jan, 2008 11:56
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i think a junk ps pump would seize without the ps oil going thru it.
http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=9599
you need this style of water pump pulley
the one that has the serp driving the water pump? I've looked for that. I can't find that anywhere.
thanks, if i can't find it, i may just put the ps back in.
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#4
by
burn_your_money
on 28 Jan, 2008 14:25
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Take a PS pump, fill it with fluid and just make a loop. Not very efficient but it'll work.
I'll see about getting you a PN for that pulley
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#5
by
flapjack
on 29 Jan, 2008 06:16
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Burn
yes please , if you can. the part number would be great. There is a great vw junkyard in Pennsylvania with Canada 1.9 diesels, they got me the serp setup, but he can't find that water pump pulley for me.
Is there a belt specific to a car with no PS but WITH AC ?
Did those cars have AC? Your picture in the faq shows the water pump powered by the serp, but the AC is missing.
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#6
by
burn_your_money
on 29 Jan, 2008 07:13
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That is a factory non ac model. I don't know much about AAZs but I would imagine it needs a different belt. I'm not sure but the AC ones might drive the WP with the v-belt, I'll check though as I have 3 of these engines kicking around
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#7
by
lord_verminaard
on 29 Jan, 2008 08:52
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#8
by
flapjack
on 29 Jan, 2008 09:43
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Thanks Verminaard !
that's very cool, but I have to keep the AC.
(north new jersey summers, humid 100 deg & 45 minute commute)
That kit uses a 1.9TD crank pulley and obd-1 vr6 water pump pulley
if that water pump pulley doesn't interfere with the ac pulley, thats what I'll use.
He sells a 1.9TD crank pulley for $75 which seems like a really good price.
I thought they were over $200 ??
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#9
by
flapjack
on 08 Feb, 2008 06:50
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The vr6 water pump pulley fits.
It looks a little off center, the belt riding a bit closer to the outside edge, but looks like it'll work.
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#10
by
Busdriver
on 20 Feb, 2008 13:15
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Use a junk power steering pump as an idler pulley to tighten the belt.
Take a power steering pump, open it up, REMOVE the vanes, reassemble.
Fill with power steering fluid (don't forget to plug the holes) reinstall.
Pretty much the same answer as run a junk power steering pump in a loop, but without the loop.
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#11
by
BigVWman
on 25 Feb, 2008 16:32
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Flapjack did you ever get the serp system to work with a/c and driving waterpump? I just put bracket and parts on my 1.9 and looks like the serp belt won't even touch water pump pulley when a/c is installed. I was hoping to retain a/c but drive h20 pump off serp if possible any suggestions?
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#12
by
flapjack
on 25 Feb, 2008 20:52
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I don't see a way to keep AC and run the water pump with the serp
I think I may put the @#$-ing power steering back on and run the v belt for the water and power steering as the good Lord intended.
At the moment I've got a serpentine belt running the water pump but going backwards over the AC. It'll do until I actually finish getting the rest of the car together and actually starting it. For some reason I can't finish this job
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#13
by
subsonic
on 26 Feb, 2008 06:05
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Little helper :lol:
