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January 17, 2008, 02:19:35 pm

shegel

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« on: January 17, 2008, 02:19:35 pm »
i dont want to over rev my engine but im having trouble keeping up with traffic otherwise... its an 86 1.6 na with a manual trans. if i push it i can go to 70. and it still wants to pull more. but the engine sounds like its going to die...looking for help..thanks
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Reply #1January 17, 2008, 02:37:02 pm

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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 02:37:02 pm »
don't worry about overrevving the engine, it can handle 5000rpm easy. these engines are tough. the search function might help you. i'm sure others will chime in too

Reply #2January 17, 2008, 03:02:33 pm

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 03:02:33 pm »
look on the bottom of the bell housing and get the two or three letter code and then go to http://www.scirocco.org/gears/ and see what your ratios are. They got a calculator for figuring your rpm @ what ever speed.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
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Reply #3January 17, 2008, 04:36:02 pm

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 04:36:02 pm »
unless you have a run away you can't over rev your engine... it has a governor and will have trouble getting much passed 5k... well within the safety zone of the stock valve train i believe
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Reply #4January 17, 2008, 05:02:47 pm

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 05:02:47 pm »
Forgive me tagging on the same question- does the same apply to n/a vanagons, even though their IP was governed lower than any?  My MK II replacement pump keeps pulling like crazy past the shift marks, whereas the original one started shutting down the engine just before it got to the mark. (I don't have a tach)  I just don't know how high I should risk going- it performs so much better up high though, especially on a 3-4 shift.
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Reply #5January 17, 2008, 05:35:57 pm

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 05:35:57 pm »
Quote from: "Vanagoner"
Forgive me tagging on the same question- does the same apply to n/a vanagons, even though their IP was governed lower than any?  My MK II replacement pump keeps pulling like crazy past the shift marks, whereas the original one started shutting down the engine just before it got to the mark. (I don't have a tach)  I just don't know how high I should risk going- it performs so much better up high though, especially on a 3-4 shift.


 what your sensing is the difference between a 8mm pump to prolly a 9mm pump that the mk2 is! your getting more fuel! better power! i recently did he same thing but in reverse! went from a 9mm pump to a 8mm pump big difference power wise! you can go as far as you want drive it likeyou stole it!     :lol:
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Reply #6January 17, 2008, 10:23:50 pm

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 10:23:50 pm »
Just make sure the oil is up to temp and your engine is in good shape
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Reply #7January 18, 2008, 07:01:26 pm

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2008, 07:01:26 pm »
like burn said. and if your injection pump is standard i've found its nearly impossible to 'over-rev' these engines... but feel free to conduct your own experiments.

Reply #8January 18, 2008, 08:49:26 pm

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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2008, 08:49:26 pm »
how will i know if my pump is "standard" i have heard that 70mph is hard to attain with a stock mk2 golf 1.6 na
1986 Golf 1.6l non turbo (R.I.P.)
1999.5 jetta (bought with 122145)
1969 karmann ghia(diesel swap dream)(most likely going to be subaru powered)
1998 jetta tdi (parents car)

Reply #9January 18, 2008, 09:27:02 pm

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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2008, 09:27:02 pm »
I have the same model as you shegal and I was wondering what your economy is depending on how you drive these mk2 n/a's? My normal economy is 48 mpg on highway and 43 in the city.

I do about 70 no problem in mine. It's first gear that I am always worried about. Does anyone know how hight the rpms go in first when getting up to speed? I just feel it.
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Reply #10January 18, 2008, 09:55:53 pm

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 09:55:53 pm »
Quote from: "vegfuel"
I have the same model as you shegal and I was wondering what your economy is depending on how you drive these mk2 n/a's? My normal economy is 48 mpg on highway and 43 in the city.

I do about 70 no problem in mine. It's first gear that I am always worried about. Does anyone know how hight the rpms go in first when getting up to speed? I just feel it.


im getting about the same milage as you are...i usualy do between 10 to 15 in first. then second from 15-20, third 20-25, fourth 25 to 40-45 fifth from 50-70....i drive about 100 miles a day...90% of which is highway
1986 Golf 1.6l non turbo (R.I.P.)
1999.5 jetta (bought with 122145)
1969 karmann ghia(diesel swap dream)(most likely going to be subaru powered)
1998 jetta tdi (parents car)

Reply #11January 19, 2008, 12:18:52 pm

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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2008, 12:18:52 pm »
wow, driven like that the car'll last forever. I usually do 15-20ish in 1st, 30 in 2nd, 45 in third, 55 in 4th and whatever in 5th. The fastest I ever went pegged the speedo and then slightly faster so it was somewere between 85-90MPH. I have an FN tranny and a tach and in 5th gear goin' 50mph is 2000rpm, 70mph is 3000rpm. These engines are governed at like 5300rpm unless someone screwed it up. Hope this helps.
'82 Rabbit, I put on a euro vnt-15, 2.25" DP, 2.5" exhaust, the result.....it whistled.

I removed the turbo, made a toilet bowl 2.5" DP, the result....it was deafening. Now it has a homemade muffler up front and a thrush in the rear, the result.....less loud.
Watch: AGENDA, GRINDING AMERICA DOWN

Reply #12January 19, 2008, 04:23:19 pm

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2008, 04:23:19 pm »
Quote from: "shegel"
how will i know if my pump is "standard" i have heard that 70mph is hard to attain with a stock mk2 golf 1.6 na


Don't know, but I've got  a 91 with low gears that was still climbing at 140 kph, roughly 85mph. Don't usually run it that fast, but it wasn't complaining!