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December 04, 2007, 01:59:48 pm
wolfboy
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Hi, i own a vw 2.4 van with a w feed alternator fitted. I bought a set of dash clocks from a similar aged 1.9td van with a rev counter rather than a clock. When fitted the rev counter goes round to the max position. Anyone any ideas? I seem to be chasing my tail at the moment- not a good look!! Many thanks in advance, Matt.
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December 04, 2007, 02:09:06 pm
Vincent Waldon
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I'm guessing your rev counter goes up to 7000 rpm ??
You probably have a dash for a gas van rather than a diesel... the rev counter signals are different and so is the calibration.
There is a converter box available which some have used to convert the signal:
http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=128/category_id=287/home_id=59/mode=prod/prd128.htm
There are also some accounts of people modifying the circuit boards... although I've never seen specifics for a van cluster.
Obviously the easiest approach is to get the correct cluster.... not always an easy task of course.
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December 04, 2007, 02:16:16 pm
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Hi, thanks for reply. My clocks only go to 5000 as they came from a 1.9 turbo diesel van. Hence my confusion!!
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December 05, 2007, 02:15:25 am
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i've got that:
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December 05, 2007, 08:00:12 am
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Where did you find that one? I' looked on their site, but I didn't see it. I love that style and size.
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December 05, 2007, 08:14:39 am
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i find it in england --> ebay
you can find in france too:
click here
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December 05, 2007, 09:23:00 am
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I did a search on their North American site and all I got was:
http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=3331&sid=11
http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=2749&sid=9
http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=2602&sid=12
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December 05, 2007, 10:33:20 am
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Did that run straight off your alternator? Any diodes or resistors etc involved?? Many thanks, Matt.
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December 05, 2007, 10:43:20 am
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Quote from: "clbanman"
http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugedetail.aspx?gid=2749&sid=9
This is the one..a bit expensive but I like it!
What does it mean my "fabrication required: modification to the flywheel" ?
Can this go to any diesel like the OP Vanagon? Or are there other "modifications" required?
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December 05, 2007, 12:52:00 pm
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Your 2.4 is an IDI and the 1.9 clocks are from a TDI.
TDI clocks take a signal from the ECU
You cant run them from the W term on the alt.
The easiest solution is to send 20 and a revcounter from a gasser to me and I'll mod it.
I've got a spare circuit board here, if you can solder two terminals you can swap it into your existing TDI guages. Probably.
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December 05, 2007, 01:43:03 pm
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ive got the auto gage 2888 in the mail. now i just need to make the time to hook it up
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December 05, 2007, 03:56:46 pm
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On each of the link pages there is a link to installation instructions. The 2888 looks to be the easiest to install as it uses a sensor that mounts to the alternator, but would also be the least accurate. The 6806 should be the most accurate, but most work to install. Looking at the instructions, I think you could use the crank pulley instead of the flywheel. I think maybe tabs welded to the face of the pulley would be the easiest, not sure if they would cause problems otherwise.
shegel, what is street price on the 2888?
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