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October 12, 2007, 08:02:53 pm

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« on: October 12, 2007, 08:02:53 pm »
Has anyone ever tried reusing con rod nuts and bolts when rebuilding a diesel?  If you do have to used new ones, who sells them?

Reply #1October 12, 2007, 08:49:41 pm

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2007, 08:49:41 pm »
I got mine from the VW dealer. I have heard of lots of people reusing them without problems but they are stretch bolts so you have been warned.
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Reply #2October 12, 2007, 08:52:32 pm

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2007, 08:52:32 pm »
Did they torque the used ones to 22ft lbs plus 1/4 turn?

Reply #3October 13, 2007, 07:53:09 am

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2007, 07:53:09 am »
They're cheap, why the hell take a chance on ruining your engine? Do it right or don't do it at all!
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Reply #4October 15, 2007, 06:57:38 am

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2007, 06:57:38 am »
The VW dealer shows two different bolts, how do I know which one? One is pressed in, the other is pressed in with a "torque angle method".

Reply #5October 15, 2007, 08:47:41 am

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2007, 08:47:41 am »
1.6 or 1.9 ?
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Reply #6October 15, 2007, 09:02:51 am

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 09:02:51 am »
I have a 5 cylinder Audi Turbo diesel that should have the same pistons as a 1.6 VW turbo diesel.

Reply #7October 15, 2007, 11:56:54 am

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 11:56:54 am »
How about for the 1.6td while we're at it?

I started looking for some this morning to no avail.
dan

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Reply #8October 15, 2007, 01:03:49 pm

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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 01:03:49 pm »
You can check out this link for some detailed discussion on the bolts.

http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4208&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

or you can go to the FAQ section and look at the post for the part numbers.

"ARP Part Numbers"

Jim
2009 Jetta TDI Loyal edition, 6-spd. 16V 2.0CR


1985 VW Golf 5-spd, 4-door, 1.6NA  Bought from orig. owner in Savannah with 42,000 miles.
"Making the jump NA to TD" slow but sure.

1980 VW Rabbit LS 5-spd, 4-door 1.6NA almost 450,000miles  RIP

Reply #9October 15, 2007, 01:24:18 pm

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 01:24:18 pm »
Quote from: "subsonic"
You can check out this link for some detailed discussion on the bolts.

http://vwdiesel.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=4208&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

or you can go to the FAQ section and look at the post for the part numbers.

"ARP Part Numbers"

Jim


Thanks but I'm not wanting ARP Bolts, Already have that #.
I've read through that thread numerous times and I suppose it's possible I missed it but I didn't see anything in there about stock rod bolts.

If you do the math, OE Rod bolts are what $4. ea approx?
So your out a whole $32.00 for OE bolts that last for 400K + on a stock engine. There are guys running stock everything over 100hp.
ARP's are over $100.00.

I'm sticking with OE Bolts, ARP's for the head but Rod's are getting OE Bolts.
dan

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Reply #10October 15, 2007, 01:33:43 pm

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 01:33:43 pm »
I did order the "torque angle install" bolts, but my Bentley for the Audi Turbo Diesel reads that I should touque to 21 ft-lbs, then 1/2 turn 180 degrees.  Doesn't this seem like a little much?

Reply #11October 15, 2007, 01:47:46 pm

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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 01:47:46 pm »
Quote from: "TPW"
I did order the "torque angle install" bolts, but my Bentley for the Audi Turbo Diesel reads that I should touque to 21 ft-lbs, then 1/2 turn 180 degrees.  Doesn't this seem like a little much?


not for stretch bolts...


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Reply #12October 15, 2007, 01:47:46 pm

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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2007, 01:47:46 pm »
Quote from: "TPW"
I did order the "torque angle install" bolts, but my Bentley for the Audi Turbo Diesel reads that I should touque to 21 ft-lbs, then 1/2 turn 180 degrees.  Doesn't this seem like a little much?


Hmm, hard to say. I cant remember right at the moment what the specs are on teh 1.6TD. Guess I had better take the plactic off the Bently when i get home and take a looksee.
dan

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