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#15
by
wolf_walker
on 27 Jun, 2011 22:36
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I'm just going by the vid and watching the speed-o movement. I've had a few of both. Turbo's nice if you have hills or altitude to deal with, otherwise, meh. NA AAZ is my fav combo so far still.
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#16
by
vdubspeed
on 28 Jun, 2011 03:01
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My friend down the road has a 1.6 NA with TWO mods. Giles pump and an exhaust.
How about a video of me racing him in my turbo 1.6NA.
That would put to rest REAL quick if it's faster than an NA...especially one with a Giles pump.
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#17
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 28 Jun, 2011 09:23
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My friend down the road has a 1.6 NA with TWO mods. Giles pump and an exhaust.
How about a video of me racing him in my turbo 1.6NA.
That would put to rest REAL quick if it's faster than an NA...especially one with a Giles pump.
oh, its faster alright.. if your rabbit runs anything like mine, then its quick as hell. if i had a different trans, my car would be fast too. my old rabbit used to do ~120, maybe a tad more, with an AUG close ratio trans and a turbo 1.5D..
do you have the governator mod done yet? fuel screw cranked up any?
idk why your car doesnt feel fast, my car will torch both front tires off in 3rd gear..
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#18
by
vdubspeed
on 28 Jun, 2011 12:55
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It doesn't feel fast because when you drive a 20vT rabbit that makes 263whp/248ft/lbs...you are kinda jaded.
The more cars I ride in that are "fast"...aren't really that badass. Now I did ride in an 11 sec GTO the other day and that was fast.
Don't get me wrong...I <3 my turbo diesel but she ain't no speed demon. Yes it has the gov mod(AWESOME). Fuel screw is 1.5 turns. Anymore than that and it will hang. Need more boost and an intercooler.
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#19
by
8v-of-fury
on 28 Jun, 2011 12:57
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A member on here has a ALH TDI that puts out somewhere near 250ft.lbs.. I prefer my 1.6 n/a
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#20
by
wolf_walker
on 28 Jun, 2011 14:16
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Yeah.... I love these things, I've driven them for fifteen years now, I learned to drive in them, etc, etc. But in the land of 300hp 4 door family sedans, they ain't fast. You've about got to be talking way low 14's to be in the neighborhood these days as far as I'm concerned. It's all about context though, I'm around "fast" cars all day at work. I'd still rather drive my Caddy.
Speaking of which, and at the risk of pouring fuel on a fire, nobody EVER takes there hopped up VW D's to the drag strip and fesses up some numbers.
I have a suspicion why, but I'd like to see some figures if anyone has em.
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#21
by
8v-of-fury
on 28 Jun, 2011 14:33
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Speaking of which, and at the risk of pouring fuel on a fire, nobody EVER takes there hopped up VW D's to the drag strip and fesses up some numbers.
I have a suspicion why, but I'd like to see some figures if anyone has em.
Well, with my old 0-60 time of 21s... I'm afraid to see what a 1/4 will be! lmao
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#22
by
JGWarner
on 28 Jun, 2011 14:42
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I learned to drive in an '82 Benz 240D with two bumper stickers:
"0-60 in five MILES"
and
"I may be slow, but I'm in FRONT of YOU!"
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#23
by
wolf_walker
on 28 Jun, 2011 16:09
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I want a sticker for near my tail pipe with an arrow pointing to it and CANCER in big letters. Being un-PC is a hobby.
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#24
by
vdubspeed
on 28 Jun, 2011 17:36
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My old 1.6 gasser went 21 in the 1/4
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#25
by
wolf_walker
on 28 Jun, 2011 17:56
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Displacement being equal I don't think the early gassers were much stronger than the ole 1.6D
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#26
by
DieselBalz
on 29 Jun, 2011 11:18
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Watching the OP's video has got me thinking. There are tons of conversations on here about safe EGT ranges. One of the concensus is that the high EGT's should never be sustained for a few seconds.
Now it seems to me that by that video that a sustained high temp like the ones we are fearful of is nere imossible as soon as he is off the gas or at cruising speed, the temps instantly plummet. Metal no matter what the melting point needs to be at that temp for a sustained amount of time. It doesn't seem to me like that is something that can be done unless you intentionally hold it at WOT. Granted I live somewhere where there is zero hill driving, but it just seems to me that with normal driving, you should never have to worry about melting anything.
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#27
by
8v-of-fury
on 29 Jun, 2011 11:34
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Balz, I agree with you. And not only that but let's looks at the ones who have put turbo's on the CR and ME motors with no piston squirters, sodium filled exhaust valves or the extra oil capacity and cooling. They have then been driven like hell and beat down, yet still continue to start in the cold and run just fine.
For aluminum to melt, it needs some high temps ( can't recall the temp right now). It also needs to be directly heated continuously for a sustained time.. Every intake stroke brings cool air in to the cylinder, and every individual stroke bathes the cylinder/piston in (cooler than combustion) cool oil. So when you see 1200F the metal isn't 1200F.. Its more than likely a few hundred degress less.. Unless you sustain 1200F for several minutes I don't thin you have anything to worry about.
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#28
by
R.O.R-2.0
on 29 Jun, 2011 13:02
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Watching the OP's video has got me thinking. There are tons of conversations on here about safe EGT ranges. One of the concensus is that the high EGT's should never be sustained for a few seconds.
Now it seems to me that by that video that a sustained high temp like the ones we are fearful of is nere imossible as soon as he is off the gas or at cruising speed, the temps instantly plummet. Metal no matter what the melting point needs to be at that temp for a sustained amount of time. It doesn't seem to me like that is something that can be done unless you intentionally hold it at WOT. Granted I live somewhere where there is zero hill driving, but it just seems to me that with normal driving, you should never have to worry about melting anything.
thats exactly it, you dont have to worry about it unless you are going up a hill, floor boarded, then it might get hot enough to damage some things..
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#29
by
RabbitJockey
on 29 Jun, 2011 18:55
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the thing is yeah it melts at 1200 or w/e but at what point does it warp or expand too much