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Reply #75April 18, 2011, 10:32:17 pm

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Re: Possable Scirocco for TD project?
« Reply #75 on: April 18, 2011, 10:32:17 pm »
I know what ya mean about hitting the micro switch before full throttle. Been thinking about ditching it and putting on a brake light switch or something with a longer stroke.
Also been thinking about a shifter nob w/ push button, but thats gonna empty tanks fast!!!

Reply #76April 19, 2011, 12:50:03 am

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« Reply #76 on: April 19, 2011, 12:50:03 am »

T2 and K14 are basically identical turbos, in terms of specifications, just made by different companys. i swear that more came with a T2 than a K14 tho, but i could be wrong..


Depends what country you are in. Across the pond a lot of k14s were watercooled and therefore are quite a bit different physically. How and when they build boost is the same though I think.
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Reply #77April 19, 2011, 10:08:53 am

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« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2011, 10:08:53 am »
Thanks for the compliments. I made sure that the bottle was purged before fastening it to nozzle.
From a stand still, full throttle, nothing different happens untill turbo boost hits 10psi. Then black smoke rolles out till 20 something psi then clears. Thats most likely due to the nitrous helping to burn the excess fuel. But like I said, I need to figure out some different locations for boost ref., for boost controller, gauge and LDA ref. Right now the gauge and boost controller ref. is shared from same port on intake. The LDA is T'ed from the boost controll wastegate ref.to the boost box. Also a new Hobbs swt. that is adjustable from 5psi-15psi.
My intake manifold is from a Carrodo G60, but has been modified. The inlet adapter to manifold is from
BonBrennerMotorsport and is about $45. but mine was used and had holes in it, so it was free.

what turbo you running again, Josh?
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #78April 19, 2011, 10:19:34 am

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« Reply #78 on: April 19, 2011, 10:19:34 am »

T2 and K14 are basically identical turbos, in terms of specifications, just made by different companys. i swear that more came with a T2 than a K14 tho, but i could be wrong..


Depends what country you are in. Across the pond a lot of k14s were watercooled and therefore are quite a bit different physically. How and when they build boost is the same though I think.

only the "RA/SB" 1.6TD had the watercolled K14, that is the intercooled ones, the others had "standard" K14 or T2's

Reply #79April 19, 2011, 10:36:24 am

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Re: Possable Scirocco for TD project?
« Reply #79 on: April 19, 2011, 10:36:24 am »
I know what ya mean about hitting the micro switch before full throttle. Been thinking about ditching it and putting on a brake light switch or something with a longer stroke.
Also been thinking about a shifter nob w/ push button, but thats gonna empty tanks fast!!!

my switch didnt activate my nos till right when i got to full throttle.. anyone care to see where i had my WOT switch, and what part of the throttle arm it was working from? cause it worked good, it never came on till i was at full throttle..
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86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
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Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #80April 19, 2011, 10:44:07 am

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« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2011, 10:44:07 am »
The turbo I'm using is from an '80s Mercedes 300 turbo diesel. Its a Garrett T3 frame but the trim is different. The ex. AR. is 48 and comp. AR is 42. I think maybe the comp. trim is a P? The turbo inlet flange is T3 and the ex. outlet is a T31, same as the stock turbos on VWs.

Yeah. ROR. post up some pics of your swt. location.

PS. I have an old Hurst shifter with a NOS button! ;D
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Reply #81April 19, 2011, 10:52:51 am

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« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2011, 10:52:51 am »
The turbo I'm using is from an '80s Mercedes 300 turbo diesel. Its a Garrett T3 frame but the trim is different. The ex. AR. is 48 and comp. AR is 42. I think maybe the comp. trim is a P? The turbo inlet flange is T3 and the ex. outlet is a T31, same as the stock turbos on VWs.

Yeah. ROR. post up some pics of your swt. location.

PS. I have an old Hurst shifter with a NOS button! ;D


i really hate you now.. (but not really) im sure its probably the same shifter i have on my GTI, but with the button IVE ALWAYS WANTED!!

so did you take and make a merc T3 fit in a VW exhaust housing? cause i know that a merc t3 has a regular T3 pattern doesnt it?

and i will have pics up in a half hour or so, i gotta go take some.
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #82April 19, 2011, 11:06:48 am

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« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2011, 11:06:48 am »
I'm using an Ebay T3 ex. manifold thats been coated.
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'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
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Reply #83April 19, 2011, 11:15:19 am

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« Reply #83 on: April 19, 2011, 11:15:19 am »
I'm using an Ebay T3 ex. manifold thats been coated.

ah, thats kinda what i figured..
92 Jetta GLI - Black, 1.6D w/ GT2056V turbo..
86 GTI - 4 Door, Med Twilight Gray, Tow Machine..
86 Audi Coupe GT - Tornado Red, All Stock.. WRECKED.
89 Toyota 4Runner - Dark Grey Metallic, LIFTED!

Turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster.

Reply #84April 30, 2011, 09:23:04 pm

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« Reply #84 on: April 30, 2011, 09:23:04 pm »
Small update.
Bought and installed a Tilton universal clutch master cylinder and resevior kit. Had a stainless flex line made up with the proper fittings to connect to a MK3 clutch slave cylinder. It looks great, and boy is the pedal movement nice and short. About three inches of travel. I used a 7/8" boar master cylinder as to make the pedal effort less than with the stock boar size of 3/4". The clutch is a stock VR6 disk and pressure plate,  but the flywheel is an ECS lightened G60 unit. Even with it in the truck and using the cable converter thingy, it feels about like a 210mm 16V clutch.

I hooked up a battery to check out some of the wiring and whats what. I labled the toggle switches and rocker switches, labled the engine wiring connections and tested the starting circuit. All good there.

Ordered a new Kirkey Economy Drag seat as the one that was in ther was a circle track seat and kind of hurt under the arm pits. Plus a seat cover thats got the sewed in padding. It'll need to have new seat brackets made to mount it compaired to the old seat.

Sent on of the wheels off to a buddy of mine who is a wheel and tire dealer to see if it can be repaired. Hopefully it can be fixed but at $75 an hour,it might just get replaced. He seems to think it'll balance out just fine. I hope so.

Well there ya go., More pics later of progress.
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Reply #85May 01, 2011, 06:09:46 pm

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« Reply #85 on: May 01, 2011, 06:09:46 pm »
Today I went to the shop to work on the nitrous setup on the truck. First off, just replacing the throttle cable, made all the differance. Tons of power and lots of smoke. Even with the NOS on. Remember, its the .018 jet. So I figured to just try the .042 jet and see what would happen. WWWWWOOOOOOOOWWWW. Shut the front door!!! :o :o :o.
This truck hauls ass now. I'm talking, throw you in the seat and hold on hauling ass.
Still blows smoke but is now a grayish color now.
All I know is that this next weekend at the diesel dyno day, I expect to see at least a 200HP number. Seriously, it almost looses traction in third it. It pulls hard right to redline.

I made some vids of it on my test drives.
The first test drive, I swear, someone in a 240SX wanted to race. Of course he won, but I kept right with him. He looked worried, wondering why I was still so close.
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Reply #86May 01, 2011, 06:17:32 pm

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« Reply #86 on: May 01, 2011, 06:17:32 pm »
Videos are uploading and will be posted tonight.

Man, this engine is going to be awsome in the Scirocco.

One thing I did notice was that the EGTs are still high. So I'm thinking either more nitrous or H2o/Meth injection. Also the front mount intercooler is completely worthless in town. Heat soaked after the first blast. Maybe a nitrous bar in front of the intercooler. But how cares about the truck, its all going into the Scirocco with a water to air intercooler anyways.
'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320

Reply #87May 01, 2011, 06:45:18 pm

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« Reply #87 on: May 01, 2011, 06:45:18 pm »
I am looking forward to the videos. Sounds awesome.

Reply #88May 01, 2011, 07:45:19 pm

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« Reply #88 on: May 01, 2011, 07:45:19 pm »
thats nice to stay with a 240sx.  a friend of mine has one with an sr20 and 14psi with a big exhaust, that thing is insane ass end floats around at 70-80 mph,  and he really hasn't done anything to it, just a stock engine with more boost, a big intercooler, and a big exhaust.  can't wait for the vids
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Reply #89May 01, 2011, 07:52:13 pm

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« Reply #89 on: May 01, 2011, 07:52:13 pm »
Ok, so heres two videos of the testing. As you can see, theres a puff of white smoke just before the black smoke and then gray. The white is most likely due to no boost and a thermal loss. Then the black smoke is from the fueling during boost and then gray that ends up being cleaned up with boost and nitrous. My peak boost is 30 psi and my max EGT is 1300*F.
Sorry the sound is not so good but its what I got. So turn it up.
http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/joshmarstall/?action=view&current=GOPR0037.mp4.

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee10/joshmarstall/?action=view&current=GOPR0038-1.mp4
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'87 Syncro Transporter Single Cab "Now TDI"
'78 Rabbit..Gas Weekend Racer
'81 Caddy..Diesel 1.6/1.9 TD hybrid 275HP 349TQ "Retired"
'90 MultiVan, 2.5 Suby Swap, Porsche Brakes
'76 Scirocco TD dragster project
'13 Golf R:. Tuned
'98 Puch G320