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looking for some education, rover tdi pumps
by
CRSMP5
on 26 Sep, 2010 21:18
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using the search button i found some info, but not enough what i have...
0460414099 from a land-rover defender 2.5 aka 300 tdi
fitting it i think i can use this link
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=152265i have a AHU engine from a 98 jetta, the ability to buy above mentioned fuel pump. i am building a tdi-m and seek help on things like what nozzles to use and any tech on using the rover pump. for now i plan to just use it before rebuilding my AHU and sending the pump up to giles (sp??) for boost in power.
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#1
by
CRSMP5
on 03 Oct, 2010 12:00
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well i now have the pump in hand..
still looking for education...
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#2
by
svenakela
on 05 Oct, 2010 00:22
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I hope you can find some details here:
http://switchamotor.blogspot.comYou need to customize the bracket and the rear end support. I took the outlet valves from the old 1Z pump (they are shorter) and after that the injector pipes fits perfectly. When I tested my engine with the Landy-pump it was rev'ing pretty darn good. I think you should test it first before sending it away.
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#3
by
CRSMP5
on 05 Oct, 2010 10:34
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i do plan to test it 1st.
i got my bracket sunday.. one of my tdi customers works at a machine shop and hooked me up
he is even willing to do the mod for others who seek/require it for later pumps even as he now knows what needs done.
anyone needing the AHU/1z bracket modded shoot me a pm and ill get you his # he had mine modded in a day..
thanks for the link, the pump timming photo and rover timming info is great.
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#4
by
smiffie88
on 13 Oct, 2010 10:17
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i had a nightmare getting my 300tdi pump to work on a 1z but when it worked it really worked good luck with it
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#5
by
blackdogvan
on 13 Oct, 2010 12:23
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Anyone had any luck with a cold start advance for these? Mine's running like a champ but could use some advance early in the morning... bit white smoky till I start off & then nice & clear.
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#6
by
smiffie88
on 14 Oct, 2010 01:34
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what did you time the pump to? i started with mine at 1.25 which seemed to create alot of white smoke from cold then went to 1.54 and the smoke situation was much the same but the car didnt seem to perform aswell, the timing is now somewhere in between them to figures cant remember where but the smoke from cold is completely gone and the car performs well. i know its not the answer to your question but thought it might be useful info
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#7
by
blackdogvan
on 14 Oct, 2010 08:47
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It's around 1.2, perhaps a titch more advance is required. Performance is awesome, it pulls like a freight train & i'm climbing a local mountain pass (malahat) in 4th at speed without touching 1000deg. Totally uncomparable to the old AAZ.
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#8
by
svenakela
on 14 Oct, 2010 11:41
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Anyone had any luck with a cold start advance for these? Mine's running like a champ but could use some advance early in the morning... bit white smoky till I start off & then nice & clear.
Haven't tried it yet but will do. I'll tell you when I've done it.
According to my spec's the LR pump should have 1.54 mm with EGR and 1.4 mm without. Try a little more default advance maybe?
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#9
by
SR Heer
on 14 Oct, 2010 15:45
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I have a Rover pump and may do a mTDI in Mk1 - Caddy.
To make thins fit as far as trany goes I was thinking of using the 5th (.71) gear of a late FN or FF and putting it in a
ASF, AON, ACN, ACL (8v) 3.67 3.45 1.94 1.37 1.03 0.75 trany - in order for it to be able to handle added HP and torque.
Now for the clutch I was wanting to use the 210 flywheel - and maybe use a gasser one since it would be lighter - any comments or suggestions on this matter - also I will need a stout clutch to mate the two together - does anyone have any good recommendations?
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#10
by
smiffie88
on 15 Oct, 2010 11:44
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im using a ctn box from a passat with a 1z engine which has stood up fine to the abuse ive give it, its also got very long ratio,s aparently. 1z/g60 flywheel and stock vr6 clutch more than capable
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#11
by
SR Heer
on 15 Oct, 2010 14:06
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Did the trans mount bolt up to Mk1 frame and what kind of shifting mechanism did you use - I presume cable shifting - how different was that to instal? Was the cabling the correct length?
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#12
by
SR Heer
on 15 Oct, 2010 15:44
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Smiffle 88 - also did you use the V belt system or Serpentine Belt system - I was told that the S - belt system with the TDI accessories bracketry with the AC compressor and all would not fit in the Mk1 engine bay - is this true?
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#13
by
CRSMP5
on 15 Oct, 2010 21:13
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the front panel needs clearanced to fit tdi ac in a mk1.. i still got to figure out a way to run ac with no power steering but still drive the water pump..
any o2o will work.. i still beleive a 81-84 diesel ff tranny has best 5th.. newer look at ring/pinion ratios as they will be taller..
all 210mm is gas... diesels had 200mm.. 16v/mk3 use a bigger clutch spline but are also 210mm so make sure the disk is for the tranny..
my thoughts are 02a tdi tranny.. i want to pull 200+hp and 350+ft/lbs of torque when done and well 020 not made for the torque its going to make.. also 228mm clutch.. hydro so can use really stiff pressure plates that cables will not like
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#14
by
theman53
on 16 Oct, 2010 06:02
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the front panel needs clearanced to fit tdi ac in a mk1.. i still got to figure out a way to run ac with no power steering but still drive the water pump..
any o2o will work.. i still beleive a 81-84 diesel ff tranny has best 5th.. newer look at ring/pinion ratios as they will be taller..
all 210mm is gas... diesels had 200mm.. 16v/mk3 use a bigger clutch spline but are also 210mm so make sure the disk is for the tranny..
my thoughts are 02a tdi tranny.. i want to pull 200+hp and 350+ft/lbs of torque when done and well 020 not made for the torque its going to make.. also 228mm clutch.. hydro so can use really stiff pressure plates that cables will not like
This is a vanagon but shows you some belt options.
all aaz engines had a 210mm flywheel. You can use that or the 210mm gasser if you want to run an 020. You just have to be aware of the gasser timing mark differences.