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problems with my engine girdle???
by
MRTANGOMAN
on 01 Feb, 2010 04:01
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Hi can any one help me
i've had an engine girdle cut, fitted it too the block N/P
But when i've come to bolt the sump on, the sump doesn't clear the bolts @ the flywheel end?
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i've swopped out the "bolts" for 12.9 allen screws which sorted the pulley end but still got problems the flywheel end ...
thought i ask b4 getting the bottles and hammers out ..!!!!
pic of the girdle i've fitted
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#1
by
theman53
on 01 Feb, 2010 06:41
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I can't tell what it is doing in the pic, but maybe if you go to a fastener place and get a Flat socket head cap screw and have the baffle countersunk to accommedate them. The flat socket head should sit under or just at level once it is countersunk and there shouldn't be any interference.
If it is some other problem maybe a better pic would help?
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#2
by
MRTANGOMAN
on 01 Feb, 2010 14:59
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the 2 bolts @ the flywheel end are hitting the vertical part of the sump.
(on the the left of the pic)
i've tried fitting allen bolts which cured the problem @ the pulley end
but they still hit @the flywheel end , looked into milling the bolts into the girdle BUT it'll compromise the strength, as it'll be nearly right thro'
prob going to have to modify the sump pan
?
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#3
by
theman53
on 01 Feb, 2010 19:58
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This is what I was referring to...the 3 at the top...
I can't tell what you mean by your explination or the pic. Can you get a better pic? How is it hitting the vertical part? Wouldn't it have to get over the horizontal lip to do that?
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#4
by
NintendoKD
on 01 Feb, 2010 23:30
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Just from pure curiosity, what is the purpose of this mod?
thanks, and good luck,
Kevin
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#5
by
monomer
on 02 Feb, 2010 00:24
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This is what I was referring to...the 3 at the top...
Those are FHCS or Flat Head Cap Screws, for future reference.
The bottom end webbing is weak for a high powered diesel, and the mains girdle helps tie thing together.
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#6
by
MRTANGOMAN
on 02 Feb, 2010 01:14
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This is what I was referring to...the 3 at the top...
I can't tell what you mean by your explination or the pic. Can you get a better pic? How is it hitting the vertical part? Wouldn't it have to get over the horizontal lip to do that?
I don't think they'll be strong enough, as they have to able to torque down and hold the main bearing cap.
i'll try to get some pics later today.
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#7
by
truckinwagen
on 02 Feb, 2010 01:17
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interesting, I never tried to put the pan on when I mocked up mine, might be worth looking into...
may I ask what you decided to use as spacers between the caps and the girdle?
-Owen
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#8
by
MRTANGOMAN
on 02 Feb, 2010 01:34
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i had some machine steel spacers made, by the engineering shop..
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#9
by
theman53
on 02 Feb, 2010 05:36
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Those are FHCS or Flat Head Cap Screws, for future reference.
Yeah see my first post.
Those and all socket steel products are considered a grade 9. They are stamped 12.9 and have a higher tensile strength than a grade 8 HHCS. They are a high carbon bolt and will hold better than anything else you put in there besides weld with good penetration.
The bottom end webbing is weak for a high powered diesel, and the mains girdle helps tie thing together.
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#10
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 02 Feb, 2010 07:30
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Just from pure curiosity, what is the purpose of this mod?
thanks, and good luck,
Kevin
to stiffen up the bottom end. keep the crank and block from flexing...
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#11
by
NintendoKD
on 02 Feb, 2010 09:42
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I need one of those, where can I get one *waters at the mouth* what material is it made from? chromoly? forged from a single metal piece or cast? I would like to make one of these and use it in my rig, will make the dry sum def. worth it.
thanks,
Kevin
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#12
by
MRTANGOMAN
on 02 Feb, 2010 13:49
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I saw one on a build on here and posted up that i needed one.
someone sent me a cad file which i took to the mechine shop and they cut it out for me.
i had to drill the extra hole to fastern it to the block and counter-bore them.
and of course drill and tap the block.
and drill the hole for the dipstick
then modify around where the oil pump sits as the pump wouldn't fit.....
it's been far from easy, but when you've spent ££££ on an engine you don't want it blowin' on the first run out!!!!!
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#13
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 03 Feb, 2010 07:41
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I need one of those, where can I get one *waters at the mouth* what material is it made from? chromoly? forged from a single metal piece or cast? I would like to make one of these and use it in my rig, will make the dry sum def. worth it.
thanks,
Kevin
how is a block brace going to justify a complicated oiling system? i think you should spend your money on a FAT turbo, or a Giles pump or something, instead of making your simple diesel a complicated diesel. when you complicate things, more things tend to break and go wrong.
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#14
by
monomer
on 03 Feb, 2010 14:16
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I need one of those, where can I get one *waters at the mouth* what material is it made from? chromoly? forged from a single metal piece or cast? I would like to make one of these and use it in my rig, will make the dry sum def. worth it.
thanks,
Kevin
how is a block brace going to justify a complicated oiling system? i think you should spend your money on a FAT turbo, or a Giles pump or something, instead of making your simple diesel a complicated diesel. when you complicate things, more things tend to break and go wrong.
For those of us that may be running high torque numbers, this is a worthwhile investment.
Some of us wish to exceed 200WHP, this guy included.