Good question, I'll let you know the answer as soon as I find it out..
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Honk and wave the next time you pass by!!! Or stop for a beer, I always like an excuse to have a beer 
Keep us posted on what you find. Maybe I'll find time for a short solo road trip before winter comes back - we can have that beer & compare notes...
Keep us posted on what you find. Maybe I'll find time for a short solo road trip before winter comes back - we can have that beer & compare notes...
Mmmmm BEEEEER
i also heated some to just over 50 celcius .... still no real change just a soild stream at both 2300 psi and 2800 psi .
Thanks for the piece of info Burnt!! That answers alot right there..
It's been eluded that the elsbett systems sort of works on the idea of higher breaking pressure, but they still use some heat in the equation as well.. I suspect they have some sort of special nozzle as well.. Maybe I'll hit ole Prothe up for some Mercedes nozzels and see how they perform as well..
Now to find a decent heating element that will fit in a bottle jack and can be somewhat controlled..
Keep us posted on what you find. Maybe I'll find time for a short solo road trip before winter comes back - we can have that beer & compare notes...
Mmmmm BEEEEER
i also heated some to just over 50 celcius .... still no real change just a soild stream at both 2300 psi and 2800 psi .
Thanks for the piece of info Burnt!! That answers alot right there..
It's been eluded that the elsbett systems sort of works on the idea of higher breaking pressure, but they still use some heat in the equation as well.. I suspect they have some sort of special nozzle as well.. Maybe I'll hit ole Prothe up for some Mercedes nozzels and see how they perform as well..
Now to find a decent heating element that will fit in a bottle jack and can be somewhat controlled..
i wouldn't get the mecr nozzles , right now i have a set in my car and i'm swaping them out for a set of gtd nozzles .
this has nothing to do with prothe or the quality of his parts , i found he was a great guy to deal with and the nozzles tips i got from his have heald up very nicely .
the problem is with the merc tips themselves the pintle in the tip ( i think it's caled a pintle ) has a flat spot in it and it creates a funky 2/3 of a circle spray pattern along with some large droplets , rather than a fine mist . that equal black smoke and lost potentianl hp / fuel millage .
if you can find them , get a set of gtd vw nozzles , or even the stock ones will do the trick at higher pressures .
quick question .... what does audi use for injectors ? vw ones ? one maybe with tips slightly larger .
i've also heard tha some of the older gm diesels used a similar injector , if it sprays a similar vw pattern , that might be the way to go .
after playing for the last year with merc nozzles , i can see no real benifit over fresh stock vw nozzles , everything else being the same
Don't you need both penetration and atomization to have proper combustion? I've read that the more the fuel is atomized the less penetration you get into the combustion chamber.
some people on here have 6.5 injector nozzles and some even have 6.5 pre cups in there heads. claim they work quite well.
Thanks again Burnt, you've answered another one of those nagging questions about what the MB spray pattern looks like.. I've noticed the difference on the pintle and sustpected something similar to what you described..
I've also heard about the gm nozzels.. Never got an any answers on how their spray patterns look.. Much like the MB nozzels I've only heard conflicting optinions about how they perform..
I have a set of GM 6.2 injectors somewhere in my big pile o crap.. Just a guess but they're similar to the 6.5 aren;t they?
probably right about the same nozzles. 6.2's and 6.5's are all soo close to the same. they remind me of the 1.5 and 1.6.