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#15
by
truckinwagen
on 21 Apr, 2009 19:39
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that is a neat idea, keep the better manifold and use a cone filter.
I like the ingenuity there.
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#16
by
mystery3
on 21 Apr, 2009 22:47
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What about the g60 manifold?
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#17
by
79rabbit4dr
on 21 Apr, 2009 23:10
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What about the g60 manifold?
I don't happen to have one of those lying around :? wanna give me one? :lol:
Is this what you were thinking about when you mentioned eliminating the paper filter and using a cone filter?
yeah, except my snorkel is oval -> round and goes passenger over the timing belt cover. I've got a modified funnel on the end of it to extend it right behind the head light - was hoping for a ram air intake style... i'll post pix tomorrow.
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#18
by
lord_verminaard
on 22 Apr, 2009 06:38
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I'm going to be using an A2 GTI intake manifold, and a flipped 1.6TD exhaust manifold. Anyone else with this combo have to clearance the manifolds so they fit? A quick mock-up shows that they don't fit without some massaging.
Brendan
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#19
by
truckinwagen
on 22 Apr, 2009 08:18
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yeah, with the MK1 GTI I had to flip and do a fair amount of grinding of the TD exhaust manifold to get it to fit.
the shape of the exhaust flanges has to be changed and the support ribs on what used to be the bottom of the manifold had to be cut off.
worked pretty good though, it puts the turbo really close to the axle.
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#20
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 22 Apr, 2009 10:04
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#21
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 22 Apr, 2009 10:10
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I would still say that the gasser intake is only an upgrade on a turbo diesel, very few manifolds can beat the NA one for intake restriction.
I agree. The A1 gasser intake is one of the bottlenecks on the gas engines. The NA diesel intake manifold has larger runners that all open into a huge plenum volume. But who knows? Maybe the subject of a dyno comparison?
are you high? diesel has bigger runners? compare a standard n/a diesel manifold to a manifold off a 87-92 EFI vw. the runners on the gasser manifold are HUGE. and they are tapered. the smallest point is where it bolts to the head, and the runners in the head are smaller anyway. but yea, dig one up, and do some eye balling.. the digifant intake is WAY WAY BETTER!
To the OP:
i would go with the gas manifold since you have it already, and you can just clamp a filter on it once you make an adapter, and do not just gut the TB.. if you do, make sure to use one off an 87 - 92 8 valve engine, or off a 88-94 16 valve engine. they all have way bigger throttle plates than the old TB you have there
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#22
by
maxfax
on 22 Apr, 2009 13:48
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yeah, except my snorkel is oval -> round and goes passenger over the timing belt cover. I've got a modified funnel on the end of it to extend it right behind the head light - was hoping for a ram air intake style... i'll post pix tomorrow.
My snorkel is oval too... Took some work to get a round hose jammed on there... I would have preferred to route the intake tube similar to the original and have filter behind the headlight but I have heat exchangers and a fuel filter mounted there for wvo.. I thought about routing it down in front of the trans behind the starter but mud puddles fighten me...
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#23
by
jtanguay
on 22 Apr, 2009 14:02
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oh, and I DO have the gasser throttle body, but even if I gutted it I think all the restrictions would just about cancel out any gains the manifold would produce, correct?
TB;
the only benefit of keeping the throttle body is for anti shudder when turning off the car, and an easy way of choking the engine in a run-away situation, but other than that pretty useless.
as for AWIC setups, i think they are superb, but are most costly...
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#24
by
idgtd
on 22 Apr, 2009 18:01
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I would still say that the gasser intake is only an upgrade on a turbo diesel, very few manifolds can beat the NA one for intake restriction.
I agree. The A1 gasser intake is one of the bottlenecks on the gas engines. The NA diesel intake manifold has larger runners that all open into a huge plenum volume. But who knows? Maybe the subject of a dyno comparison?
are you high? diesel has bigger runners? compare a standard n/a diesel manifold to a manifold off a 87-92 EFI vw. the runners on the gasser manifold are HUGE. and they are tapered. the smallest point is where it bolts to the head, and the runners in the head are smaller anyway. but yea, dig one up, and do some eye balling.. the digifant intake is WAY WAY BETTER!
Are you? I've got an A1 CIS intake manifold (which is what the OP has, by the way, not a digi one) off an 85 rocco right here in front of me, and my old NA diesel intake. The gasser intake has small runners the size of the port at the bottom, just like the diesel one. But the diesel intake manifold runners get larger as they go up, and as I said before open up into an enormous plenum. How about you go dig one up and get your facts straight.
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#25
by
AdAm84
on 22 Apr, 2009 18:28
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Woah there! If you guys wanna fight take it to the Vortex. This forum is drama free.
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#26
by
Rabbit on Roids
on 22 Apr, 2009 20:11
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why do all you guys get soo butt hurt so easy? ive had 2 different topics pissed off at me for no reason this week. and uh,
Diesel intakes < Gas intakes
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#27
by
79rabbit4dr
on 22 Apr, 2009 23:04
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#28
by
Baixo
on 23 Apr, 2009 04:04
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why do all you guys get soo butt hurt so easy? ive had 2 different topics pissed off at me for no reason this week. and uh,
Diesel intakes < Gas intakes
go change your tampon, the only one here that starting crap is you....try treating others with respect....so if if someone posts up something you dont like are we always going to have to hear your BS...??
if you dont know how to be polite to your fellow dieselheads, then stay off this forum until you learn.
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#29
by
Baixo
on 23 Apr, 2009 04:06
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from the side by side pic, it looks like the diesel intake looks marginally better.......or about the same....to me not worth the work of the gas intake...
but i dont know......I MAY BE HIGH
