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Warming up diesel before it gets into the motor?
by
lildevil
on 29 Nov, 2008 16:42
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I'm sure people have done this, ive seen it on the Vortex but the search is down, is there anyway to heat the diesel before it goes into the motor? its starting to get chilly here, i have no problem starting, but when it was -20 it was runnin a little rough for a couple seconds, which would be one of my GP's burnt out, but does anyone have heated lines in there diesel?
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#1
by
Caddyman
on 29 Nov, 2008 17:41
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I'm sure people have done this, ive seen it on the Vortex but the search is down, is there anyway to heat the diesel before it goes into the motor? its starting to get chilly here, i have no problem starting, but when it was -20 it was runnin a little rough for a couple seconds, which would be one of my GP's burnt out, but does anyone have heated lines in there diesel?
I've always wanted to try this;
http://www.arctic-fox.com/sitepages/pid20.php
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#2
by
8v-of-fury
on 30 Nov, 2008 10:33
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that does sound pretty cool there caddy. Just out of curiosity why are you willing to spend all this money on heated fuel lines when you car starts and runs perfectly fine in -20 weather?
any car will run rather shotty for a few seconds in the cold
But cool idea none the less
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#3
by
lildevil
on 30 Nov, 2008 10:50
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lol it gets -50 here at times, its just easyer on the motor, i hate when it runs rough, i seen that fox site but cant figure anything out, i know theres cheaper ones out there
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#4
by
8v-of-fury
on 30 Nov, 2008 11:58
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very true.. I did happen to see something somewhere... Had some sort of like.. electrical cord im guessing wrapped around the fuel lines.. i dunno if it would be a cheaper option.. but surely much more simple then replacing all the fuel lines.. i dunno where i read it or saw it.. but it seemed cool.. OH I remember! i read it on some WVO conversion thread.. he used it to keep his veggie oil warmed up for the trip from the tank to the engine..
so im sure the concept would work to keep diesel warmer..
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#5
by
the caveman
on 30 Nov, 2008 12:00
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Go to
http://www.plantdrive.ca/ and get a Vegetherm . Just wire it so you can preheat the fuel for a few seconds and shut it down after a minute or two. And yes it will get hot fast enough to work. Within 20 secondes it'll be too hat to touch with your hand. And all for about $100.
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#6
by
dieselweasel
on 30 Nov, 2008 12:09
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I'm sure people have done this, ive seen it on the Vortex but the search is down, is there anyway to heat the diesel before it goes into the motor? its starting to get chilly here, i have no problem starting, but when it was -20 it was runnin a little rough for a couple seconds, which would be one of my GP's burnt out, but does anyone have heated lines in there diesel?
Do you have a block heater? Plug it in at colder temperatures and she will start and run great.
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#7
by
stewardc
on 30 Nov, 2008 14:56
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#8
by
lildevil
on 30 Nov, 2008 22:34
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thanks guys i will forsure look into both of those, might be a good way to go!!
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#9
by
zukgod1
on 01 Dec, 2008 08:10
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I used a fuel filter mount from a 01ish Dodge Cummins. It has a water sensor and drain, and a built in fuel heater as well.
Then theres the availability of a filter with a 2 micron rating as well with this set up.
I also like the fact if I'm out in the sticks I know I'll be able to find a filter for a Dodge LONG before I'll be able to find a filter for a VW.
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#10
by
lildevil
on 01 Dec, 2008 14:12
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where can you get those, there prolly pretty pricey eh?
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#11
by
zukgod1
on 01 Dec, 2008 20:42
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Actually no it wasn't to bad.
It's been a while but I think it was under shipped. Like $70.00 actually.
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#12
by
lildevil
on 01 Dec, 2008 21:57
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really, could you pm me or give me a heads up where you got it? thanks man
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#13
by
clbanman
on 02 Dec, 2008 03:10
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We use one version of these in some of our trucks:
http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/en/products/en_prod_inn_fuelpro.shtml.
They have an optional heater inside. Ours are 24 volt, they use 10 amps, and the heater is internally switched to come on at temperatures below 110 deg. F. and turn back off at temps above 150 deg. F.
One of the beauties of these is the clear filter housing lets you see exactly when the filter needs to be changed. When new, the fuel level is very low in the housing, the top is empty. As the filter starts to get restricted, the fuel level in the clear housing rises. When you get near the top, you change the filter. It has another plus in that if you don't have the proper filter or if the plastic bowl gets cracked, you can just spin on the regular metal Cummins fuel filter temporarily to keep you running. I believe Ryder Fleet Products carries or can order these.
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#14
by
jtanguay
on 02 Dec, 2008 05:20
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i would think that intake air heating is what you're really after. even really cold fuel hitting the glow plug will ignite with the proper compression. the intake air heater will help that process a whole lot!
but if you must heat the fuel, you might as well have it circulate while being heated to be beneficial on startup. use a solid state fuel pump to draw fuel from a T in the fuel return, and then the outlet to the inlet of the pump. i'm pretty sure the fuel stop solenoid must be activated though or it might not flow...