disconnect the sensor (blue/white wire) - if you don't want the glow or want to cut it short - turn the key.
Putting in a switch is a complete waste of time and money.
Its not that tricky to use the OEM glow plug realy with a manual control.It involves tracing the glow plug relay trigger wire (ground) and cutting it .Simply add a momentary switch to control the OEM realy.I used a wiring diagram to locate the wire on the back or the fuse pannel.On most AAZ golf/jettas/passats its the blue wire with yellow stripe.This cuts out the need for other relays,morwe wiring etc....Just one switch and 2 wires.
Meh.
the switch and relay cost me i think 8 bucks Canadian and took all of 10 minutes to shove the wires through the fire wall hole, drill a hole in one of the empty slot switches and pinch some connectors on the wires.
I don't think it's a waste of time. I think it saves time and frustration looking up wireing diagrams and not to mention how bad ass switches look on your dash!!!!
My 92eco diesel is in my suzuki samurai and I want to know how can I tell how long to power the GPS. I have a 60amp pushbutton starter switch from kragen auto parts connected to the battery and to the GP buss.
7 seconds?
10-15 in the winter i guess?
7 seconds?
10-15 in the winter i guess?
you guys using a toggle switch your just asking for trouble! everytime you forget and leave the switch on you will lambaste the gloplugs and those are about 40 a crack so if you multiply that by how many times your forget full?
that expensive! and just recently i seen what a worst case relay malfunction from a shorted out gloplug! it cought the wiring on fire under the dash in a rabbit trashed the whole harness! and it all could of been avoided if the fuse was installed where it was supposed to be and not the 2 connection connected to them selves!! anyways there are simpler ways to rewire the gloplugs Vince Walden has a nice write up and 53willys did a nice setup as well! also there are 2 style of gloplugs out there fast and slow and thats the same for relays! if your abdomen about using a switch use a push button where you have to hold it in to make contact! but stay away from a switch that stays in the on position!
just my tip for the day! :wink:
thanks Duane
7 seconds?
10-15 in the winter i guess?
you guys using a toggle switch your just asking for trouble! everytime you forget and leave the switch on you will lambaste the gloplugs and those are about 40 a crack so if you multiply that by how many times your forget full?
that expensive! and just recently i seen what a worst case relay malfunction from a shorted out gloplug! it cought the wiring on fire under the dash in a rabbit trashed the whole harness! and it all could of been avoided if the fuse was installed where it was supposed to be and not the 2 connection connected to them selves!! anyways there are simpler ways to rewire the gloplugs Vince Walden has a nice write up and 53willys did a nice setup as well! also there are 2 style of gloplugs out there fast and slow and thats the same for relays! if your abdomen about using a switch use a push button where you have to hold it in to make contact! but stay away from a switch that stays in the on position!
just my tip for the day! :wink:
thanks Duane
Good advice - my last diesel Rabbit I used a simple toggle - no lights - and a Ford starter relay. I left it or bumped it on... and lost a new set of GPs. That's why I'm fusing them under the hood pre relay, using an illuminated toggle to feed a momentary toggle to power the relays, and have 2 illumination lights for the 2 relays to show when power is actually getting to the 2 sets of GPs. A bit over done, but fail safe.
geez guys, are you deaf or what??? :roll: :lol:
pull the sensor lead - takes about ten seconds.
NO possible chance of cooked glow plugs
NO drilling holes
No running wires
No switches
Turn on ignition, wait a few seconds or let the light go out on dash if engine is cold - turn key.
KISS.
This is a solution for people with relays that don't work.
:?
geez guys, are you deaf or what??? :roll: :lol:
pull the sensor lead - takes about ten seconds.
NO possible chance of cooked glow plugs
NO drilling holes
No running wires
No switches
Turn on ignition, wait a few seconds or let the light go out on dash if engine is cold - turn key.
KISS.
You're tallking about the coolant-temperature sensor to the glow plug relay, correct?
I may try this. My Hi-Torque starter is kind of slow spinning for the AAZ engine. It's always harder to start with the engine warm, because the glow plugs don't glow. I have to pull the cold-start cable to start it when
warm, pretty ironic.
Do you remember which terminal # on the relay is for the coolant-temp sensor, save me looking it up?
Also, I seem to recall there is a sensor from the starter motor to another terminal on the glow-plug relay, and that kills power to the glow plugs as soon as the starter is energised (so you don't fry the battery with two hi-amp draws simultaneously). This is correct, right? So if I disconnected the coolant temp sensor, I could start the engine hot without waiting the full 15 (or whatever) seconds, and the plugs would be "off" while the starter spins.
I guess the downside to this mod is that the plugs would switch back on as soon as I let go of the ignition key, and there would be a superflous 15 second glow while the engine ran,
every time I started the engine. So you'd go through glow plugs 2x as fast as you otherwise would.
Pin T for Temperature.... usually blue/white:
I guess the downside to this mod is that the plugs would switch back on as soon as I let go of the ignition key
I'm 90% sure the starter pin aborts the glowplug timing cycle permanently, so I think you'll be fine.
Having said that, the stock AAZ system leaves the glow plugs on for several minutes after the starter has finished, and so does the BEW system (although it cuts them out whenever the engine goes over 2500 RPM)... so there's precidence for a bit of after-glow regardless... all in the name of drivability and emissions. :wink:
Putting in a switch is a complete waste of time and money.
I've converted several gassers to diesel and put push buttons in the dash that control the glow plugs.
There is a benefit to starting a diesel in the cold,.. the glow plugs stay on while the starter is cranking,.. slowing down the starter.
Many times when it was on the edge of starting but cranking speed was slowing down,... releasing the button gave it the cranking speed it needed.
Wish I had some way to turn it off while cranking on the 4 door.
I'm a big fan of the switch so far. I don't know why people protest so much.
It's nice to clear out all the other GP wiring off the batt. terminals once you make your own relay/switch.
geez guys, are you deaf or what??? :roll: :lol:
pull the sensor lead - takes about ten seconds.
NO possible chance of cooked glow plugs
NO drilling holes
No running wires
No switches
Turn on ignition, wait a few seconds or let the light go out on dash if engine is cold - turn key.
KISS.
you my friend have obviously not read vince's write up.... using the stock wiring harness you will notice a significant voltage drop from the really to the GP's.. not to mention who the hell wants to **** around with stock wiring? If you put in your own stuff there's only one place to look if something goes tits up.. If theres anyway that i can easily rewire anything.. I do it. Stereo, Head lights, Fogs, Reverse lights, soon to be Gp's.. It just makes life easier.. and for what.. $10-15 you can't go wrong for peace of mind at that price.. lol