MY cure for the metal HG on a mech 1.6l - page 2 - IDI Engine - VWDiesel.net The IDI, TDI, and mTDI source.

• #15 by saurkraut on 18 Jun, 2008 11:32
• Call these guys.  They'll know exatly what you need for studs
  
  http://www.raceware-fasteners.com/
  
  I'm sure ARP could get there eventaully, but from what I here, If you don't have THEIR P/N, it could take a while.   And they have a bizar torqueing procedure that involves torqueing and loosening multiple times.   Man, mash that poor gasket flat.
  
  
  "just cut out a piece to keep the oil from leaking out of the head and place it in?"
  
  On a mechanical head, the extra oil hole in the gasket lines up with a coolant passage in the block.
  
  Yup, just cut a circle from a oil cap gasket, stuff it in the hole, and flop on the head.  No waxes, polishes or glues.  Works good, lasts long time.
  
  Extra difficulty points: drill out the steam holes in the head and block.  Use liberal quantities of some light oil while drilling. The block is hard and wants to fight the bit, and the head is gooey and loads the flutes with aluminum goo.  Light oil fixes both.  And cobalt is your Freund
• #16 by mufflerbearing on 18 Jun, 2008 12:37
• so im leaving just a little hole for a bit of oil to drain, got it.
  
  ill get in contact with raceware, thanks.
  
  -j
• #17 by mufflerbearing on 18 Jun, 2008 15:56
• one more question, then my thread hijack is complete... where do i find this metal head gasket?
  
  ive searched all of the normal places i order parts online and i cant find anything for the aaz (thats what this gasket is from, right?)
  
  thanks again!
  
  -j
• #18 by jackbombay on 18 Jun, 2008 16:10
• myke_w here sells them,
  
  http://thedubdoctor.com/parts_site/
• #19 by vanagonturbo on 19 Jun, 2008 10:22
• I sell them too
• #20 by voodoo on 22 Jun, 2008 00:37
• anyone think of using teflon plastic that is rated to 500 degrees or high temp copper exhaust gasket silicone for this?
  
  and could anyone point to a different thread with metal head gasket on 1.6L info?
  
  the precup being the wrong height and causing the head gasket to blow out makes me want to pay the 12 mpg penalty of a 5.9L cummins that does not have precups,
  
  the metal gead gasket solves this
  
  thank you for showing me those pictures
• #21 by bugnut on 23 Jun, 2008 19:26
• What is the part number for the oil pan gasket paste?  I might do a combo oil cap and paste.  I'll see how that goes.
• #22 by zukgod1 on 23 Jun, 2008 21:11
• Quote from: "saurkraut"

  Quote from: "mufflerbearing"

  im about to order a hg, bolts, and a few other odds and ends before i install my freshly rebuilt turbo.
  
  thanks!
  
  -j

  
  
  Bolts?!?!??? :shock:  Nooooooo!    Get studs!
  
  Pry that wallet open, eat Mac & Cheese for two weeks, sell a kidney, just don't put those piece of Scheiße streach bolt back in your engine!
  
  Nos-hit, I've been running 25+ PSI boost for over 3 years with the stock head gasket and Raceware studs.  Every stop light is a Drag race, every turn Daytona, and not so much as a wimper from the stock head gasket.
  
  I don't care if you get Raceware or ARP, just don't put those gosh darn, piece of crap, good for nothing streach bolt back in your motor.
  
  Not that I have an opinion on the matter....
  
  Oh, By the way, the rubber oil cap gasket cut outs worked on my 1.5TD during its brief life.  On a 1.6 its even easier.   Audi80 was the first to do this with a mechanical 1.6TD and he has yet to have an issue.  Here is his engine with the rubber cut out from the oil fill cap gasket:
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  I still don't get it for some reason.
  
  That hole I can see is a coolant passage no?
  If it is then it still has an opening around the bolt. So cant the coolant leak up and around the head bolt/ stud?
• #23 by vanagonturbo on 24 Jun, 2008 19:35
• Well, the glue takes care of that. The headbolt also is sealed by its washer. Albeit, not perfectly, but I have had no fluid mixing.
  
  The part number for the glue is D 176 404 A2
• #24 by fastvicar on 26 Jun, 2008 08:02
• I put mine together last Friday with a metal HG & a piece of bicycle innertube smeared with Permatex high-temp copper gasketing goo.  No leaks so far!
• #25 by 53 willys on 25 Aug, 2008 22:01
• whats the word on these metal head gaskets???
  still holding??
  I want to run a MLS gasket..but I just dont know how I feel about this rubber half moon mod???
  so whats up they still holding??
  your should I do my ARP studs and stock fiber gasket??
• #26 by vanagonturbo on 25 Aug, 2008 22:22
• still holding with no problems. its been another 4k since I started this thread.
• #27 by fastvicar on 26 Aug, 2008 05:32
• Still holding here with 21psi boost.  No leaks, no mixing.  I only have about 3k on mine.
• #28 by 53 willys on 26 Aug, 2008 08:28
• Quote from: "fastvicar"

  Still holding here with 21psi boost.  No leaks, no mixing.  I only have about 3k on mine.

  
  did you use rubber on yours too??
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  any body try cutting a piece of the gasket lip off that hangs over the edge and cover the hole with that?? then you would have some material that is just like the rest of the gasket??
• #29 by fastvicar on 26 Aug, 2008 12:15
• Yup, roughed up a bit of bicycle innertube and coated it with the high-temp gasketing material.