1.6 TD head question.

[Barry W]

I recently took my head into a shop to get rebuilt and cleaned up after a t-belt broke on it. My head has 160k kms on it and the guy is telling me that the lifters seem to be swollen and he is not able to remove them.

I checked out the head before I sent it in and the cam turned fine and the valves do not show any signs of piston slap from the T-belt going at 120kph, although I asked them to check them anyways.

Anyone ever have trouble getting the lifters out of the head?

[Black Smokin' Diesel]

The lifters can be a PITA to get out due to oil and slight succion when pulling them. A good trick is to turn the head upside down and gently tap it on the side with a rubber mallet to get them out. Otherwise, vice-grips should do the job provided you won't be re-using the lifters.

[burn_your_money]

Or just let it sit upside-down overnight, by the morning they should all have fallen out

[Barry W]

Anyone ever seen dented lifters? I'm told from the top end of the lifter?
The guy at the cylinder head shop said he was gonna try again tomorrow morning.... hopefully he has some luck.   :cry:

Where does one buy these lifters?

[burn_your_money]

http://www.autopartsonlinecanada.com/ for lifters

[Barry W]

Would that be the cam follower?
http://parts.autopartsonlinecanada.com/parts/apocanada/wizard.jsp?year=1991&make=VW&model=JET-D-001&category=A&part=Cam+Follower

[rabbit GTI/GTD]

never heard of dented cam followers, but i do know the tops can blow off into a million peices, my aaz, and my  buddy's aaz, lol

[Barry W]

I called the shop today and they ahve been hammering the lifters to free them while having not much luck. I'm told he's even having a hard time turning the lifters in the head so they appear to be swollen or mushroomed.

Might need another hydro head.... anyone got one for sale?

[jimfoo]

If they are that stuck, he should just weld a bolt or something on them to facilitate pulling them out. Like a bolt head down, a piece of pipe that will clear the follower, a flat piece of steel on top with a hole for said bolt, and a washer and nut. And you have a puller . :twisted:

[RabbitJockey]

i used a magnet on mine

[RabbitJockey]

I don't see how you would "hammer the lifters to free them".  You might hammer the lifters to ruin the lifter bores, or to jam them further into the head, etc...

Andrew

haha yeah exactly, what machine shop did you take it to?

[burn_your_money]

Might need another hydro head.... anyone got one for sale?

Sure do.

Hammering the lifters doesn't make any sense to me either

[Barry W]

I took it to Economy cylinder heads in Calgary, AB. Been rebuilding heads since '81. I know of a few peeps that have used them locally with gas heads with good feedback.
The shop I wanted to take it to didn't answer the phone 4 times I called.    :cry:

I'm told he was hammering them to compress them to aid in releasing their grip on the bores.

Whats a new head casting cost?

[Mark(The Miser)UK]

Tapping with a drift along the axis of the valves is not unheard of if the follower has partially seized or is just catching and needs 'springing out'. Serviceable? Depends on luck and whether stuck from oil starvation or damage whilst still under oil. Sometimes the damage has occurred when last rebuilt. Follower taking several attempts to insert squarely... Or, now I think about it; a slipped valve spring compressor in a previous workshop visit.

[burn_your_money]

My friend just bought a new head, I think it cost him $600CAD but I also think he got hosed at that shop