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July 03, 2006, 09:22:05 am

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« on: July 03, 2006, 09:22:05 am »
I just got my 84 NA diesel rabbit on the road last week and took it on a trip from north bay to toronto and back. I took my girlfriend so we had a fair amount of luggage. I added some fuel conditioner stuff to the car before I left and I ended up averaging 47 MPG. How can I get this over 50? I know that less wieght will help, but most of my trips will be with someone or lots of parts anyways.
I just replaced the fuel filter (added ATF), oil/filter change. I have a 4 speed 4A tranny. I can't find any info on the ratios for it so I'm not sure if a 5 speed would actually be benieficial or not.
My average speed for the trip was 110km/h and I had no problems climbing the big hills north of toronto (I didn't need to downshift and I actually passed a fair amount of cars going up the hill)
My fuelling screw is turned down and the car does not smoke unless I'm in third at 90km/h.
I got the car up to 130km/h and it was willing to go faster but I can't afford a ticket so I slowed back down.
So what can I tinker with to get some more mpgs?
Tyler

Reply #1July 03, 2006, 11:30:18 am

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2006, 11:30:18 am »
maybe your brakes are dragging a bit? you should also have your injectors checked for leaking. i have a 1.9td and i drive 140kmh on the highway and i still get 56mpg
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Reply #2July 03, 2006, 11:34:34 am

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2006, 11:34:34 am »
Quote from: nkb
maybe your brakes are dragging a bit? you should also have your injectors checked for leaking. i have a 1.9td and i drive 140kmh on the highway and i still get 56mpg


56 mpg going 140 km/h with the 1.9? ummm... where can I get one like yours?  :shock:


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Reply #3July 03, 2006, 11:48:44 am

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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2006, 11:48:44 am »
oops 52mpg, 70L, 1300 and some km all highway, montreal to truro nonstop and i hardly went under 130..
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Reply #4July 03, 2006, 12:18:51 pm

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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2006, 12:18:51 pm »
going from kamloops to vancouver, means crossing the cascade mountains, i managed 48.5 mpg mostly going 120km/h.  lots of hills and such.  I just figured that the less boost i make the better my mpg will be.
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Reply #5July 03, 2006, 12:56:00 pm

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2006, 12:56:00 pm »
So I can definitly do better then. Would rebuilt injectors and resetting the timing help? Is there a "best MPG" setting for the pump timing or is it hit and miss or factory spec?
What about a 4:2:1 exhaust manifold or free flowing exhaust?
Tyler

Reply #6July 03, 2006, 02:35:04 pm

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2006, 02:35:04 pm »
i would get those injectors and the timing checked out, my uncle has a 91 golf with a rebuilt 1.6 n/a and he gets like between 65-70mpg on the highway
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Reply #7July 05, 2006, 01:35:34 pm

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2006, 01:35:34 pm »
Get the injectors done first, then set injection timing to 1.00 or even 1.10mm, remove the muffler and run a free flow resonator only, that should net you 60mpg or better. I was getting 1400kms on my 87 Jetta diesel this way at 100km/h loaded heavily.Think steady state cruising...

Reply #8July 05, 2006, 01:35:53 pm

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2006, 01:35:53 pm »
Also on that old beast adjust the vavles!

Reply #9July 05, 2006, 01:46:31 pm

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 01:46:31 pm »
Thanks for the pointers, I'll give them all a try
Tyler

Reply #10July 07, 2006, 04:50:55 pm

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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2006, 04:50:55 pm »
Quote from: zagarus
going from kamloops to vancouver, means crossing the cascade mountains, i managed 48.5 mpg mostly going 120km/h.  lots of hills and such.  I just figured that the less boost i make the better my mpg will be.


What sorts of rpms are we talking about at 120 and 140 km/h?

I'm curious what you guys are cruising at and how that effects the efficiency.

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Reply #11July 07, 2006, 05:14:35 pm

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2006, 05:14:35 pm »
at 120km/h its ~3000rpm
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Reply #12July 08, 2006, 11:43:48 pm

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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2006, 11:43:48 pm »
question, i have my fuel turned up, no smoke at cruising in 5th.  Boost is runnign 20psi, when i'm crusing its about 10psi-15psi depending on how high above 100kmph i am.  Will i get better milage if i run less boost?

Reply #13July 09, 2006, 12:47:23 am

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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2006, 12:47:23 am »
^ thats what im thinking is the case, one time coming back from vancouiver i was doing 150-170km/h the entire time (shhhhh) and well i got 34 mpg that time, and basically running 9psi the entire time.  

But the other week when i went easy, 110-120km/h and keeping an eye on the boost gauge and trying not to create much boost i got 48.5 mpg.  so thats what im stickin with right now, plus im sure the rpm's have something to do with it.
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Reply #14July 09, 2006, 09:42:17 am

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2006, 09:42:17 am »
My best so far is 64 mpg and worst in the low 50's.

The car is not aligned and I will get my cruise control later today. :D

House of diesel, 1400km with a 87 Jetta...you impress me.

I told the guys on another forum that I'll see 1500 km with one tank before the end of this summer, I believe it's realistic.

The car is a 1992 jetta with a rebuilt 1985 1.6D.

I've got to go fill up today, so we'll see how I manage this time (1111 km and just off the quarter tank).
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