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Reply #15June 11, 2006, 06:12:46 pm

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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2006, 06:12:46 pm »
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I am cheap to but once you get it done and over with its honestly worth it and i think you would get quite a bit more then a little performance boost.


Like enough of a boost to blow a GM8 turbo....  :P
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Reply #16June 11, 2006, 07:36:11 pm

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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2006, 07:36:11 pm »
DVST8R....PRECISELY! Red rabbit my car is turbocharged but it once was N/A and i feel your pain from those 52 hp. What i remember was it had to be floored all of the time to do anything. If you use search im not sure if you will be able to find it easily but giles built a fuel pump for his 1.6 N/A rabbit and he g teched it a something like 77 hp which is more then a factory turbo diesel. I think it would be very respectable with 70 ish hp. if its a 1.5 N/A ithink your looking at running like 48 factory hp which is scary :cry:
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Reply #17June 12, 2006, 09:09:02 am

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2006, 09:09:02 am »
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Why dont you have a giles pump on your car yet??? I recieved a built pump and set of rebuilt 155 bar injectors and all i have to say is wow. Giles did his first 12 mm pump for me and i dont think i could ask for anything better. VARY SATISFIED! with a factory pump with the fuel screw turned right up on my car it was only just barely beating 2.2 caveliers :cry:  so i patiently waited about a week and through the pump in on the weekend and all i have to say is wow. It has gotta be about 3 times faster then it was before and there is no exhaust smoke under boost.even under no boost and punch it there is only a haze. I only have a 1.6 and i have never felt so much off boost torque (from a 1.6).... listen to me bable like a little school boy. :lol:  anyways i just had to vent a little bit cause i am so excited about it.


I thought we got all the "how to"-mods on the board.
I'm kind of cheap, but i also just like to do it myself.

We got know how about, plungers sizes, camplates, governermod, LDA and the starwheel for the LDA, i dont know what else you can do on a pump internal.

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Reply #18June 12, 2006, 09:33:47 am

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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2006, 09:33:47 am »
Dyno your car ASAP. id like to see a real dyno chart. i have built a couple of 1.6 diesels up and im impressed but at the same token I have built a gasser turbo and done cheaply it still kicks diesel ass. i am building another diesel right now and id like to see some dyno numbers from the giles pump before i order one up.
so hook us up with some charts :wink:

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Reply #19June 12, 2006, 08:30:26 pm

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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2006, 08:30:26 pm »
well i can guarantee i dont have the same setup as you so what good is a dyno chart for you? My car is temporarily out of service do to cooling and turbo problems so im doing a bit of troubleshooting and fixing.
12mm PUMP 'O' DEATH on a 1.6L
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2000 NISSAN XTERRA (5 SPD)
1990 VW JETTA 20 VALVE DRAG CAR
1984 RABBIT TD 2dr (SOLD)
1.8t AEB soon around 550 whp

Reply #20June 13, 2006, 08:36:31 am

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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2006, 08:36:31 am »
i know u dont have the same setup as i do also. the benefit of the dyno is so that you arent saying my car is wicked fast. you actually have some numbers to back it up. it helps to tune also because u can see where u are gaining and lacking. in the gasser tuning world we dont run cars untill they have been tuned on the dyno. it only makes sense. i just wanna get an idea of what kind of power u are putting out. you can then state what you have into the motor and we can all learn something......

-jared

Reply #21June 13, 2006, 01:16:11 pm

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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2006, 01:16:11 pm »
I'm personally in favour of paying Giles the money he asks for his performance pump.  I would be too scared of breaking my pump by opening it, and changing things inside.  Lots of special tools are also required for the job.  

Giles is actually not really making a profit by doing the performance rebuilds.  I'd rather just pay someone who knows what they are doing, and who do it good.

I'm saving up to get my pump re-done by Giles  :twisted:


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Reply #22September 13, 2006, 10:45:33 am

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 10:45:33 am »
my pump shat on me so i figured for the money i may as well get it rebuilt by the man himself.  I'm not too sure what this'll do to a stock engine though.  I hear he makes them based on what you want and whats done to the motor so it shouldn't be too outta control.  Did all you Giles pump guys install it on an already modded motor or was it a starting point for you?

Reply #23September 15, 2006, 07:51:45 pm

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2006, 07:51:45 pm »
I'm highly considering one of these monster pumps too. I'm hoping my stock pump will hold out till spring when I'll probably have the $$$ to do it. I can hardly wait that long though. I drove a 2006 GMC Sierra 2500 HD today, and MAN that thing is quick. THAT is how a diesel is supposed to feel.

Reply #24September 15, 2006, 08:33:41 pm

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2006, 08:33:41 pm »
I've started my pump savings account. I'm 1/10th of the way there  :lol:
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Reply #25September 16, 2006, 04:32:13 am

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2006, 04:32:13 am »
Smokeydub, I hae a 12mm pump in my car too, though mine is a TDI.  It was put together by Redrotors :D  Anyway, my question, what is the max rpm you sustain in your car?  Due to gearing and a fear of blowing my pump up I try not to exceed ~4000rpm sustained which works out to be about 180km/h for me.  Red told me a fun story about driving fast for too long :(
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Reply #26September 16, 2006, 05:36:57 am

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2006, 05:36:57 am »
Just spoke with Giles yesterday and he's backed up with pump mods.  Evidently the low sulfur fuel has a bunch of pumps leaking (including mine) and several of us are springing for the performance mod.  If you send him your pump, cut him a little slack on the turn time.

Reply #27September 16, 2006, 05:58:10 am

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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2006, 05:58:10 am »
i rev mine to like 5700 very often. and would go further but i am having a valve floating problem :roll:  :shock:
12mm PUMP 'O' DEATH on a 1.6L
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2000 NISSAN XTERRA (5 SPD)
1990 VW JETTA 20 VALVE DRAG CAR
1984 RABBIT TD 2dr (SOLD)
1.8t AEB soon around 550 whp

Reply #28September 16, 2006, 06:24:17 am

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« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2006, 06:24:17 am »
Oh I hear the reving thing, I take mine to the rev limiter al the time too (5100rpm on this thing), but what can/do you sustain yours at (highspeed cruising etc)?  Does giles do something "special" to allow for continuous high rpms with out the pump self destructing?
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Reply #29September 16, 2006, 12:40:18 pm

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« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2006, 12:40:18 pm »
well i have done some long runs at 160 and once dr.diesel took it to 195 and hung around there for a while. my car has the stock transmission so you could imagine the kind of rpms it was turning.
12mm PUMP 'O' DEATH on a 1.6L
(courtesy of GILES)

2000 NISSAN XTERRA (5 SPD)
1990 VW JETTA 20 VALVE DRAG CAR
1984 RABBIT TD 2dr (SOLD)
1.8t AEB soon around 550 whp