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Reply #30March 30, 2015, 10:50:06 am

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2015, 10:50:06 am »
It will depend a lot on where the control sleeve is and how fast you are spinning the pump. If it's shooting out it's probably ok. You can try winding the max fuel screw in a turn or two and seeing if it increases. Just make sure to put it back or slightly more turned in than where it was.

I'd try bleeding the lines now and firing it up on ATF. Having the engine revving higher will help to clear stuff out of the pump.
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Reply #31March 30, 2015, 12:34:05 pm

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2015, 12:34:05 pm »
If you have some spitting out the delivery valves do as suggested and put the injector lines on and get it to the injectors.  The amount coming out the back will be small, but once under pressure tends to spray all over the place.  Get the beast started and I would be wagering on it cleaning the whole issue up.  More RPMs will get rid of the air in the pump, lines and all points in between.   Unless you have a seal issue.


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Reply #32March 30, 2015, 12:35:58 pm

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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2015, 12:35:58 pm »
Update: I got it running... sort of. Had the wife tow me down the road in second gear and it fired right up... but would only run with the pedal at least halfway down. I realized now that it's having trouble pulling fuel from the tank. Even with my Mr gasket pump BEFORE the filter, it won't pull fuel unless I pressurize the tank. Can't say I've ever run into anything like this before...

Reply #33March 30, 2015, 05:51:52 pm

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2015, 05:51:52 pm »
There has to be a crimped hose some place along the line from tank to filter.  Anything get rolled over or under the car near the passengers side and smash those lines?  Someone put a jack in the wrong place and tried lifting the car up? 

Reply #34March 30, 2015, 07:57:38 pm

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2015, 07:57:38 pm »
Is it better with the gas cap removed? Diesel one's are vented but gassers are not. Switching them up causes issues. You could also have stuff in the tank clogging the pickup screen, or rusted through lines inside the tank.

Congrats on getting her going.

I once had this issue on a Mk1 and it was a leaking copper washer on the fuel filter, or the bleeder was loose, I forget.
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Reply #35March 31, 2015, 09:56:57 am

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2015, 09:56:57 am »
Ive heard bad things about the build quality of those Mr.Gasket pumps. I personally have used a facet pump from NAPA. Just some food for thought.

Reply #36March 31, 2015, 01:19:47 pm

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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2015, 01:19:47 pm »
Exactly, the Ms. Gasket pump I bought would not move fuel down a steep incline. I lost the stinking receipt for the pos in the meantime. I was pretty angry.
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Reply #37April 01, 2015, 09:30:31 am

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2015, 09:30:31 am »
Well I dropped the tank and inspected all the lines. I don't see any noticeable problems... I'm starting to wonder if that pump was actually my problem...

Reply #38April 01, 2015, 10:05:39 am

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2015, 10:05:39 am »
I take that back. Looks like I have some black junk in the tank. If I put a little fuel in and slosh it around, the fuel comes out dirty with chunks of black something in it. Any advice on cleaning it out?

Reply #39April 01, 2015, 10:13:35 am

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #39 on: April 01, 2015, 10:13:35 am »
Dry clean towels over and over.

Reply #40April 01, 2015, 10:15:35 am

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« Reply #40 on: April 01, 2015, 10:15:35 am »
Well that was my first thought... But I was expecting the sending unit hole to be bigger... I can't fit my hand in there!

Reply #41April 01, 2015, 11:26:55 am

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2015, 11:26:55 am »
Well that was my first thought... But I was expecting the sending unit hole to be bigger... I can't fit my hand in there!


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Reply #42April 01, 2015, 01:09:51 pm

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2015, 01:09:51 pm »
i've heard of putting a bunch of chain in it with gas or diesel or what ever you want, and then slosh it all around, pull the chain out and then drain it.
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Reply #43April 01, 2015, 02:48:27 pm

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2015, 02:48:27 pm »
It lives. And idles. I'm not sure if it was the crud in the tank or the Mr Gasket pump, but all is well. Except for little power and plenty of white smoke... ☺

Reply #44April 01, 2015, 08:44:53 pm

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Re: trying to revive an old 1.6
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2015, 08:44:53 pm »
Awesome! What did you set the timing to? There shouldn't be white smoke once it's warm, unless it has leaky exhaust valve stem seals.
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