k14-2 vs k14 vs k24 pics

[carrizog60]

hello

been searching for some info about k14-2 and his potential on a vw,but not very much info was available here or in the net(i couldnt find it)

well,i bought the turbo anyway and here are some pics of it comparing it size wise to vw k14 and k24.
enjoy

vw k14 is on car


k24 on right



and on top


any thoughts about how it compares with vw oem turbos?

[RabbitJockey]

Hard to tell with out any measurements.  Looks to be in between the 2 size wise definitely has smaller wheels than the k24.  Usually the kkk turbos have a numer inside the inlet of the turbine housing which is the ar of the housing

[carrizog60]

on the cold side the turbine as almost the same size as the k24.
the k24 opening is bigger but it tunnels to a smaller size as it reaches the turbine.
going to check for more numbers on it

k14 6702

37mm on intake and 42mm exhaust.
thats the outer edge of the turbines.

[RabbitJockey]

http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=27419.0

[R.O.R-2.0]

based on what we know, the K24 has a somewhat restrictive exhaust side..

and that turbo has a BIGGER cold side, and SMALLER hot side.. so it would lead me to believe that this turbo is gonna be restrictive as well..

[RabbitJockey]

Sounds like the compressor is nearly the same size as a k24.  If the exducer is 60.5mm I wouldn't be surprised if it is actually the same compressor with a smaller exhaust side.

[carrizog60]

based on what we know, the K24 has a somewhat restrictive exhaust side..

and that turbo has a BIGGER cold side, and SMALLER hot side.. so it would lead me to believe that this turbo is gonna be restrictive as well..

so why would they use a restrictive turbo on a 2.5 tdi engine?

[RabbitJockey]

What's a reducer?

i meant exducer sorry.

i would guess that the hot side is probably newer and spools faster but flows the same i don't know what stock hp is on a 2.5tdi but alcaid says this turbo would support 170hp on that engine and i would have guessed in that same range 150-200bhp.  turbos can work quite differently on different engine.

[carrizog60]

2.5 tdi is rated at 140hp

i was expecting faster spool than k24 but better than k14 at high rpm.
mjf had a setup with this turbo,but i think he never got it sorted right on timing and dynoed.
but he said he was expecting almost 200hp if i recall correctly.

[RabbitJockey]

Yeah I think faster spool and better flow than k14 is a good expectation,  200hp sounds pretty optimistic tho

[theman53]

I was pretty sure MJF had a gt2359 

I think with all things in these cars you can paper tune all day and the results always seem to surprise you when you actually put it on the car.

[RabbitJockey]

I was pretty sure MJF had a gt2359 

I think with all things in these cars you can paper tune all day and the results always seem to surprise you when you actually put it on the car.

He had that on the one he blew up I thought and a k14-2 on a later car maybe he'll chime in.  But I agree u can look at numbers and *** all day they will only get you close.

[carrizog60]

well,not 200hp, he thinks he had the same power as the donor engine,+170hp

a bigger cold side will give what behavior?
hot side is for spool time right?or other factors involved?

[MJF]

My K14 is from MB om606, 177hp stock. Unfortunately I can't remember Inducer/exuder, but It's a little larger than om603 K24

[carrizog60]

too many k14īs lol