Rabbit pump vs Eco pump

[jboogie13]

thats what im planning on doing, i got said n/a pump really cheap (60 bucks) and the pugeot is relatively inexpensive as well(if nothing else ive spent some money to learn my way around these things) ive decided to keep the 9mm head and fit the pug LDA to it. the eco will be my backup as you suggested.

[jboogie13]

also, you will have to modify the fulcrum plate of ANY VW pump to fit the peugeot top, being that there is also a mechanical shut-off on the pug. its the lever on the far left in the last pic..

by modify you mean i would need to remove the mechanical shutoff from it, and block the hole for the shaft correct?

learning a bunch, thanks guys!

[libbydiesel]

You could probably just use the pug control lever assembly.

[jboogie13]

You could probably just use the pug control lever assembly.

both pumps are currently en route so soon we shall see.

[R.O.R-2.0]

You could probably just use the pug control lever assembly.

prolly could..

but how much of a mutt are we really looking at building here?

i would NOT use the 10mm pump unless you have hopes of big power..

[jboogie13]

You could probably just use the pug control lever assembly.

prolly could..

but how much of a mutt are we really looking at building here?

i would NOT use the 10mm pump unless you have hopes of big power..

im not using the 10mm pump, im using the 9mm head and putting the pugs LDA on top.

[R.O.R-2.0]

You could probably just use the pug control lever assembly.

prolly could..

but how much of a mutt are we really looking at building here?

i would NOT use the 10mm pump unless you have hopes of big power..

im not using the 10mm pump, im using the 9mm head and putting the pugs LDA on top.

you gonna use the pug fulcrum assy, or cut the lever off?

remember, you gotta knock the fuel limiter pin out of the side of the pump too..

and FWIW, i ran a n/a pump LOTS OF MILES without an LDA.. they work JUST FINE.. just a tid bit smokey on the bottom end if you really hog on it..

[jboogie13]

you gonna use the pug fulcrum assy, or cut the lever off?

remember, you gotta knock the fuel limiter pin out of the side of the pump too..

and FWIW, i ran a n/a pump LOTS OF MILES without an LDA.. they work JUST FINE.. just a tid bit smokey on the bottom end if you really hog on it..

not sure yet, im going to wait until both pumps are in front of me to make that decision. Im not sure if the N/A pump is in running condition so im disassembling/resealing anyways. as far as daily driving needs, my eco pumps satisfies them, so this second pump is more of a rolling experiment and if/when i get things where i like them, i may throw on a bigger turbo and start playing that game. i was thinking something like a gt15 just for a small bump, or maybe even a 2052 to really make things difficult  

[R.O.R-2.0]

you gonna use the pug fulcrum assy, or cut the lever off?

remember, you gotta knock the fuel limiter pin out of the side of the pump too..

and FWIW, i ran a n/a pump LOTS OF MILES without an LDA.. they work JUST FINE.. just a tid bit smokey on the bottom end if you really hog on it..

not sure yet, im going to wait until both pumps are in front of me to make that decision. Im not sure if the N/A pump is in running condition so im disassembling/resealing anyways. as far as daily driving needs, my eco pumps satisfies them, so this second pump is more of a rolling experiment and if/when i get things where i like them, i may throw on a bigger turbo and start playing that game. i was thinking something like a gt15 just for a small bump, or maybe even a 2052 to really make things difficult  

thats kinda apples and oranges..

a GT1549 is TINY, like K03 size..

a GT2052 is HUGE, basically a BIG T3 turbo..

the GT15 will spool instantly..

the GT2052 will NOT spool instantly..

the 2056 would be a better choice than the 2052..

my car has a GT2056V (vnt) on it.. its big, and laggy, even with working vanes..

my favorite setup i have EVER ran, was a VNT15, and a n/a pump...

it never had enough fuel to get hot.. i could beat on that engine as hard as i wanted, and it never died..

added the LDA to the same pump, and it would burn the engine down no problem...

[bbob203]

I thought the eco version of the k14 was small then I saw the gt15 on my tdi.

[R.O.R-2.0]

I thought the eco version of the k14 was small then I saw the gt15 on my tdi.

yup, GT15 is what the K03 was replaced with...

either way, they run out of steam before max rpm..

[8v-of-fury]

I thought the eco version of the k14 was small then I saw the gt15 on my tdi.

yup, GT15 is what the K03 was replaced with...

either way, they run out of steam before max rpm..

But do not underestimate their power abilities.. My car is a friggan rocket. I have my current fueling maxed out with everything turned all the way up. Yeah they run out of breath early, but there is no need to EVER crest 3500, EVER. A VNT is most certainly in my future.

[R.O.R-2.0]

I thought the eco version of the k14 was small then I saw the gt15 on my tdi.

yup, GT15 is what the K03 was replaced with...

either way, they run out of steam before max rpm..

But do not underestimate their power abilities.. My car is a friggan rocket. I have my current fueling maxed out with everything turned all the way up. Yeah they run out of breath early, but there is no need to EVER crest 3500, EVER. A VNT is most certainly in my future.

if you drive a IDI, you need more than 3500 revs...

even if i had a TDI, i would still rev it out, because i would likely have my big VNT on there..

the bigger turbo will REQUIRE you to rev it more to get the same power..

my engine is JUST starting to make good power by 3500... i have to rev it.

[8v-of-fury]

if you drive a IDI, you need more than 3500 revs...

my engine is JUST starting to make good power by 3500... i have to rev it.

No sir, brothers AAZ IDI has the same k03 on it. It hauls down the road same as me with the same power band as my TDI. Small turbo's rule. As small as can realistically be seems to be the best turbo choice.

[R.O.R-2.0]

if you drive a IDI, you need more than 3500 revs...

my engine is JUST starting to make good power by 3500... i have to rev it.

No sir, brothers AAZ IDI has the same k03 on it. It hauls down the road same as me with the same power band as my TDI. Small turbo's rule. As small as can realistically be seems to be the best turbo choice.

dude, install a drive pressure gauge on yours and your brothers car...

ill install one as well..

remember, 1:1 is ideal..

i have a feeling that the K03 will be somewhere around 2:1, maybe higher, @WOT...

i feel that the smallest turbo that you can run WITHOUT being restrictive, is the best turbo...

K03s are restrictive, nothing you say will change my mind, unless you PROVE your facts..

if you install a drive pressure gauge, and the K03 never builds extreme drive pressure, then i will shut up about K03s being too small...

you are one of the only people on the forum that actually ENDORSES the K03s...

my favorite turbo ive ever run, was a VNT15 with the vanes open.. that turbo didnt choke on the top end, but its a totally 100% different animal...