UPDATE na-td motor swap Timed correctly atf in now engine no crank

[bbob203]

if you added the mk1 filter check there. I would suspect anything you have done to be causing the problem. Plus the MK2 inner fuel line doesn't like to mix with the barbs.

I replaced the black stuff with poly between filter and hard lines coming from under car.

[bbob203]

I might just try the mr gasket pump if it breaks ill take it back and get a refund. diesel shop wants over 100 bucks for one and its 3 days out.

[bbob203]

haven't had any time to mess with it past few days. picked up one of these http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/solidstatepump.php?clickkey=7286

considering relocating my fuel filter back to where the water seperator used to be to save some room under hood. right after the lift pump.

[bbob203]

I've got it on iv I made with an 8 dollar aftermarket coolant reservoir hanging from hood above ip. I've pulled fuel thru ip with a vacuum pump a quart jar is half full of outbound fuel. I've been cranking and cranking. increased fuel screw. I'm so out of ideas. still don't think anything has come out of delivery valves.

[bbob203]

ip is not moving fuel when cranked. I lowered the fuel and raised the return jar and no fuel was going into it when I cranked.

[srgtlord]

I would still install the inline electric pump, it will make your life alot easier.

[libbydiesel]

If the fuel is not moving when the engine is cranked, then the vane pump section of the injection pump is not working. 

[bbob203]

If the fuel is not moving when the engine is cranked, then the vane pump section of the injection pump is not working. 

will having the pump to help move fuel mitigate this problem?

I'm just about to give up and put the eco pump back in I don't want to bit I'm so frustrated by this. I've installed pumps before and had no issues.

[libbydiesel]

A lift pump might help.  If the vanes are temporarily stuck then a lift pump will let it run and might result in the vanes moving, but while the vanes are stuck there won't be any dynamic advance and it will be a dog. 

[bbob203]

A lift pump might help.  If the vanes are temporarily stuck then a lift pump will let it run and might result in the vanes moving, but while the vanes are stuck there won't be any dynamic advance and it will be a dog. 

I can only hope cuz I'm not getting a single drop of fuel at the delivery valves.
say I wanted to run an na pump from an early 80's 1.6 would it be better than running my eco pump?

[bbob203]

i cracked open the timing bolt and fuel came out also i hooked up the dial indicator and it shows the piston is moving. unfortunately i have cranked my battery to death so ill have to take to the parts store for a charge. im going to time my engine with the dial indicator but i have no clue how to read one of these things it is standard inches.

[8v-of-fury]

0.039" for inch.

[R.O.R-2.0]

A lift pump might help.  If the vanes are temporarily stuck then a lift pump will let it run and might result in the vanes moving, but while the vanes are stuck there won't be any dynamic advance and it will be a dog. 

I can only hope cuz I'm not getting a single drop of fuel at the delivery valves.
say I wanted to run an na pump from an early 80's 1.6 would it be better than running my eco pump?

the actual PUMP portion (the portion under the pump top) is almost identical between the n/a and TD..

the ECO pump is much different tho.. and not capable of nearly as much fuel..

i would say the 1.6n/a pump would do better than the eco pump..

yes, do install a lift pump, they work wonders. every VW diesel should have one.

but, dont try and use the lift pump as the MAIN fuel pump. you still need the vane pump to work in the injection pump..

like andrew said, no timing advance and it will be a DOG.

you might even try and diesel-purge your pump thats on it, or dump it full of ATF, or something.. i imagine the vanes are just stuck..

did this engine sit for a long time with a dry pump?

[bbob203]

sat about six months dry.

[8v-of-fury]

But with vaseline on everything. Alot on the vane pump