UPDATE na-td motor swap Timed correctly atf in now engine no crank

[R.O.R-2.0]

But with vaseline on everything. Alot on the vane pump

maybe its the vaseline keeping the vane pump from pulling fuel..

they may be stuck still

[bbob203]

so maybe it sitting with fuel in it will free it up? or something more viscous like atf might free it up?

[8v-of-fury]

Very possible. Andrew did say it needed extended cranking to get stuff moving. I would tty an ATF soak for the hell of it.

[bbob203]

I got some atf and fresh battery in this morning. timed it to. .039" and now it wont turnover not even by hand it like stuck but nothing is impeding it.

[bbob203]

could I have an airlock that wont let it crank over?

[R.O.R-2.0]

could I have an airlock that wont let it crank over?

starter is sticking, turn the engine backwards a rotation or 2, that should free everything up..

[bbob203]

I think I royally screwed myself... I acidentally turned the key with ip lock pin in that's when this problem surfaced I discovered after taking the key out it wouldn't fully turn over. I think it caused my cam timing to be off and I'm hitting a valve...    NOW IM CLUELESS. My ip is lined upwith the mark and my cam lobes on 1 are up and slot it aligned but the tdc mark is no longer visible on flywheel. I know for a fat everything was lined up before because I was cranking.

[R.O.R-2.0]

I think I royally screwed myself... I acidentally turned the key with ip lock pin in that's when this problem surfaced I discovered after taking the key out it wouldn't fully turn over. I think it caused my cam timing to be off and I'm hitting a valve...    NOW IM CLUELESS. My ip is lined upwith the mark and my cam lobes on 1 are up and slot it aligned but the tdc mark is no longer visible on flywheel. I know for a fat everything was lined up before because I was cranking.

then the valves are sticking.. turn the motor backwards to un-bind everything..

you will likely have to put a new timing belt on it..

[bbob203]

yep pulled off lower belt cover crank is 90° OFF TDC. I cant sed how the *** that happened from leaving that pin in but it happened. how should I go about getting it right. is is possible I damaged anything?

[R.O.R-2.0]

yep pulled off lower belt cover crank is 90° OFF TDC. I cant sed how the *** that happened from leaving that pin in but it happened. how should I go about getting it right. is is possible I damaged anything?

100% possibility that you could have (and probably do have) bent valves..

get a new belt, re-time it, and see if it runs..

[8v-of-fury]

Ooooh.. Dang. I had this exact thing happen to me.. The crank has the least amou t of teeth therefore the least hold on the belt. The belt cant hold the torque of the starter sp it shreds teeth. If the crank turned 90 and you right now cannot turn the motor by hand.. Im Gonna say it is more than likely she is fubard.

[bbob203]

I loosened the cam bolt and pooped it of it instantly allowed the motor to spin free I got all the timing marks realigned. I see how that could've happenes jeremy. the tbelt has like 2k on it none of the teeth look buggered up.

[8v-of-fury]

If none of the teeth look buggered how did the crank spin 90* and nothing else moved with it??

After you get it retimed ( and as should be done everytime) you should turn the motor over by hand with a wrench.. To make sure there is no binding.

[bbob203]

the whole situation is confusing the heck out of me haha. I can get a gates belts for 9.99 or a conti for 28.99. decisions.

[srgtlord]

Why did you loosen the cam bolt?