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May 13, 2012, 05:58:19 am

TonyTDTruck

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Water Pump Pulley Problem
« on: May 13, 2012, 05:58:19 am »
Here is another problem I just ran into. This AAZ came with A/C but now it will not be used. The serpentine belt now has no A/C pulley to wrap around so the belt is much shorter and will run into the water pump and double cross on to the tensioner  pulley. The water pump here has a separate belt and pulley coming off the crank.
I have seen pictures of the water pump using this groove belt but I can't seem to find the p/n or even if it will work in this situation.
I can rig up an idler where the A/C was but I'd rather not.
Any Ideas?
Thanks
Tony



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Reply #1May 13, 2012, 07:58:26 am

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2012, 07:58:26 am »
you are looking for an obd1 vr6 water pump pulley, then you can use the serp belt on it instead of the v belt.
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Reply #2May 13, 2012, 08:05:11 am

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2012, 08:05:11 am »
you are looking for an obd1 vr6 water pump pulley, then you can use the serp belt on it instead of the v belt.

Can you get a p/n for this one? I try looking for it but I get different choices. Would this be the right number? 028 121 031E
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Reply #3May 13, 2012, 08:11:50 am

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2012, 08:11:50 am »
and 93-99.5 vr6 pully should work.. used a obd2 on my set up.. but requires some washers to shim it out a tad... look at ror's serp belt issue thread for belt size/info your seeking.. http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?topic=31119.0
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Reply #4May 13, 2012, 09:16:58 am

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2012, 09:16:58 am »
Or a 93 non-A/C AAZ pully. My car has the serp for the alternator and water pump, and a v-belt for powersteering.
Part number according to VAGcat is 028121031E

The P/N for the VR one is 028121031K
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Reply #5May 13, 2012, 09:32:17 am

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2012, 09:32:17 am »
Super thanks. Do have a picture on this setup on your car? That would be very helpful.
Tony
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Reply #6May 14, 2012, 08:58:35 am

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 08:58:35 am »
If you get a vr6 pulley it works just fine.  I have a serp setup like this and I run the water pump off the serp and the power steering it you have it, is the only thing running off the v-belt.  You will just need a shorter v-belt than what came with the car.
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Reply #7May 14, 2012, 09:55:03 am

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 09:55:03 am »
The water pump pulley is just flat steel and so it seems like the back of the belt should run on it.  That's not the case, tho.  The ribs need to run on the flat steel because the water pump has to run clockwise. 

Reply #8May 14, 2012, 10:23:24 am

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 10:23:24 am »
Super! Thanks for all the info fellas. I'll be ordering this today from ECS tunning.
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Reply #9May 14, 2012, 11:17:49 am

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 11:17:49 am »
why do you have a 16v power steering pulley on your water pump?

you need a VR6 water pump pulley spaced out +5mm

or a VR6 power steering pulley, not spaced at all..
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Reply #10May 14, 2012, 01:28:04 pm

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 01:28:04 pm »
It looks to me like he has an AAZ water pump pulley from the AAZ A/C serpentine setup on his water pump.

Reply #11May 14, 2012, 01:32:03 pm

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Reply #12May 16, 2012, 06:52:03 am

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2012, 06:52:03 am »
It looks to me like he has an AAZ water pump pulley from the AAZ A/C serpentine setup on his water pump.

That's correct. The engine came with A/C and this truck is not setup for it. I was contemplating on installing A/C but it's too much work.
This truck came with no power steering as well. That's another pulley I don't have to worry about.
It's good to know I only have one belt to worry about. Simple is good when you're out in the middle of nowhere in central Oregon.
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Reply #13May 17, 2012, 01:39:43 pm

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2012, 01:39:43 pm »
I got a hold of the pulley and new Idler. This belt is a 1045mm. It look like it's a little bit long. I am thinking a 1035mm or so would be better.
Since this is the first time I've seen this setup. Is this correct as far as the belt wrap?
Thanks for the help in finding the parts.
Tony

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Reply #14May 17, 2012, 01:43:38 pm

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Re: Water Pump Pulley Problem
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 01:43:38 pm »
I got a hold of the pulley and new Idler. This belt is a 1045mm. It look like it's a little bit long. I am thinking a 1035mm or so would be better.
Since this is the first time I've seen this setup. Is this correct as far as the belt wrap?
Thanks for the help in finding the parts.
Tony



correct belt wrap, but you need a 1034mm belt..

6pk-1033 is the dayco part number, i believe..

but im running the 1034mm belt on my GTI, and it works fine.

had a 1054mm belt on there at first, and it was WAY TOO LONG.
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